UIM & APBA Outboard Records

[fgbiv]

UIM Outboard Record set by my father in the 1961

[Mark75H]

Cool stuff, Frank

Keep it coming!

:)

[fgbiv]

This is a poweroint slide I made of my dad's U.I.M. Record with a the photo used to make his U.I.M. Certificate. Dad tells me there were a few people that commented on thefact that he was not wearing a helmet when the picture was taking during a Test run.

Frank G. Brown IV

[fgbiv]

Here is a picture of a MERCURY Dealer Poster from 1984.
April 28 1984 at the Moore Haven KILO's in Florida George andrews Jr. established an OZ World Speed Record, beating the old mark by over 13mph. It was a Karelsen Hydro powered by a Modified Mercury 200 Powerhead and it was running a Mercury Racing Propeller according to the Poster. The Engine was prepared by Dick O'Dea Racing of Patterson, New Jersey.

[march3stv]

Frank,

If you post the photos separately (separate posts), it won't require clicking each single file separately to view...the photo will be embedded into the actual post in actual form...

Thanks for the posts...

[John Howe]

The poster of George Andrews is based upon a photo that I took at the Moore Haven, Fl. kilo`s. George had just set the record and still had two more passes left on his runs. I was standing on the bank of the river with my camera. He passed by the pits, and his crew gave him the thumbs up indicating that he had indeed set the record. George nodded to the crew and then turned aound and indicated that he was going to run again. He went by just fine on the first leg. However, on the return pass, back towards the pits, the boat came apart and George lost his life. The skeg had broken on the lower unit. Speculation was that he had struck some unseen debris in the river. I did send Dick O`Dea the last ever pics of George in the boat. Eight and a half months later, George`s daughter was born.

[Thomas]

I was looking at the list of records on the UIM site, However I couldn´t find
a lot of records that I have seen documented evidence on,
for example the man in the picture has made about 20 worldrecords
together with his son, where are all the records?

And another question;
Who has the most records all times, all classes?

This guy seems still very keen on driving despite the not so sunny
weather and his coming 75th anniversary! :D

[fgbiv]

APBA Outboard Record set by my father in the 1960's

[fgbiv]

Recent "2003" Propeller Magazine Historic Memories Insert about my fathers 1961 U.I.M. Record

[Mark75H]

Welcome, Thomas!

Who has the most records all times, all classes?

Unless there is someone in Europe who has set over 110 records, the answer is an American. A very mild mannered, modest and polite gentleman who currently holds the ultimate outboard record .... you probably know who it is and may have even met him since he travels all around the world racing.

[Mark75H]

Who is the gentleman in your picture with the König stocker?

[Thomas]

Hello Sam,

You must mean a certain guy who lives in the Seattle area?
One of my friends (:D ) keeps telling me he´s a chicken and not a real racer
(only striving for records), how can it be?
A man with so many records can´t be afraid of high speeds???
But how many records was the question?

The man pulling the rope sure is no chicken I can assure,
despite a handsome man restoring old hydroplanes!

By the way, nice to see all the same guys here!

Here you have a few records!

[Thomas]

And the name is;

[Mark75H]

Mr Wartinger is not a "fierce" or overly agressive circuit course racer, but I would by no means consider him a "chicken" or "not a real racer". This would probably reflect more on your friend's expectations of Mr. Wartinger. Maybe your friend expected to see him win every heat he entered and was disappointed.

[march3stv]

Oct 25, 1968 - 72.525 mph - Switzer Shooting Star / 80hp Merc

[march3stv]

Sept 30, 1967 - 54.39 mph - 16' Allison / 80hp Merc

[march3stv]

Sept 29, 1968 - 56.38 mph - 16' Allison / 80hp Merc

[Mark75H]

How many records does Bob Wartinger have now?

Answer: 110

How many does Herr Fagerstrom have? 30?

[Jeff Akers]

1956 Orick, CA ASH, 50.0260 mph . By Bob Akers.
and some pics.

sorry about the size :o (still tryin to figer this stuff out) :o :D

[Jeff Akers]

the boat

[Jeff Akers]

The man.

[Jeff Akers]

one more :)

[march3stv]

OPC FH
May 8, 1965

[march3stv]

OPC - FH
September 30, 1967

[march3stv]

OPC - FH
September 29, 1968

[march3stv]

OPC - SH
September 29, 1968

[Mike Ward]

I was looking at the list of records on the UIM site, However I couldn´t find
a lot of records that I have seen documented evidence on,
for example the man in the picture has made about 20 worldrecords
together with his son, where are all the records?

And another question;
Who has the most records all times, all classes?

This guy seems still very keen on driving despite the not so sunny
weather and his coming 75th anniversary! :D

I maintain the archives for the UIM which includes the entire list of 3600 speed records which have been homolgated since 1923. I plan to publish this on CD Rom in the new year along with the result of every UIM World and European Championship, circuit and offshore, a total of about 600 pages.

I know that the prolific speed record holder Bob Wartinger has set many records, but most of these are not recognised by the UIM. Probably the most records have been set by Italian Carlo Casalini who in 1965 set 20 records in 1 week at Sabaudia in 4 different inboard classes.

Mike Ward
England

[B VALACHOVIC]

I maintain the archives for the UIM which includes the entire list of 3600 speed records which have been homolgated since 1923. I plan to publish this on CD Rom in the new year along with the result of every UIM World and European Championship, circuit and offshore, a total of about 600 pages.

I know that the prolific speed record holder Bob Wartinger has set many records, but most of these are not recognised by the UIM. Probably the most records have been set by Italian Carlo Casalini who in 1965 set 20 records in 1 week at Sabaudia in 4 different inboard classes.

Mike Ward
England
Mike why may I ask are Bob Wartinger records not recognized by U I M . If the integrity of the sport was kept intact amd in fact protocal was followed with the strictest of regulations being in play , a reasoning of such an outcome as being stated would be in need of explanation. I am at this moment asking for this explanation. Thank You. R. Valachovic

[Mike Ward]

Mike why may I ask are Bob Wartinger records not recognized by U I M . If the integrity of the sport was kept intact amd in fact protocal was followed with the strictest of regulations being in play , a reasoning of such an outcome as being stated would be in need of explanation. I am at this moment asking for this explanation. Thank You. R. Valachovic

Hello

I guess its down to paying the appropriate fee for the UIM to homologate the record, many US drivers are quite happy just to pay the fee for a "APBA World Record". Bob's name only appears 8 times in the UIM list, it would have cost a small fortune to register every record he has set! One of the records Bob currently holds (OSY.400) was previously held by my nephew.

Mike

[B VALACHOVIC]

Mike
Thank you for the timely response. There is an answer for every question and this answer in fact states the true reason .

Thank you for taking the time. Bob

[Mark75H]

There is also possibilty of a particular class or course length being a local class to APBA that is not recognized by UIM.

UIM only issues records for UIM recognized classes & lengths

[B VALACHOVIC]

Homoligate

[Miss BK]

When Brad set his APBA course record in SST-60 back in 1990, it cost $315 to register (homologate) it with the UIM. It probably costs more than that now.

So I can see why someone like Wart, who has more than 100 records may not want to fork out that much cash - that's over $30,000 in registration fees :eek: yikes.

[Joe J]

[QUOTE=Miss BK]When Brad set his APBA course record in SST-60 back in 1990, it cost $315 to register (homologate) it with the UIM. It probably costs more than that now.


Val, we just received a UIM certificate for Lauren's J hydro record. Teri and I thought her having a certificate next to mine would be good for her.

today's cost is $400 or $450, I don't remember which.

Joe

[Miss BK]

How fantastic -- she's only 11 and already has a UIM record! Hope you have a big wall, Joe! LOL

[Jeff Akers]

I found this thread on page 5 ( I had forgoten I even posted on it:o ) Admin............Shouldn't this be made a STICKY ?

Let's see some more records;) :cool:

[david bryan]

Let's see some more boats.

[david bryan]

five mile record

[tthibodaux]

let see some more boat'sWhat type of boat is that? The pictures are small but it looks alot like my Staron .

By the way, I set a record in it for most time getting wet in a season but for some reason I didn't get an award!:eek::D:D

[Jeff Akers]

five mile record

cool !....check out this link for more records..... :cool:

http://www.boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113

Maybe if Sam sees this thread he can merge it with the other one ...and (pin it to the top of the page were it should be!);)

[Joe Silvestri 36-S]

What type of boat is that? The pictures are small but it looks alot like my Staron .

By the way, I set a record in it for most time getting wet in a season but for some reason I didn't get an award!:eek::D:D

Was the Staron based off a Broccoli? It looks just like one.

[david bryan]

this c runabout was built by me with some input from Ralph De Silva

[J-Dub]

What record was it and what year? My Dad had the 1 1/4 record in the late 70's in CSR. He ran the engine one more time the following year and it hasn't left the shop in 30 years!

J-Dub

[david bryan]

well Myers my record was one and two thirds mile three laps yelm wa.1979 0r 80 i broke Tom Sheits record He had it for 15 years in large the picture