Restore project so looking for plans

[curbman]

I am looking for some help on find the plans for this boat. The boat is in poor shape and to restore this boat I would get it right with some original plans. I would also like to get any information on this boat year, class etc. Thanks

[Tomtall]

You will find your answers more than likley at this site.


http://www.vintagehydroplanes.com/index.html


Good Luck! Cooll boat by the way. :)

[wolfgang]

What a find! Looks like a 280ci/5ltr Ron Jones. Good luck with your project.

[curbman]

What a find! Looks like a 280ci/5ltr Ron Jones. Good luck with your project.

Ron Jones built alot of race boats does someone know if there is a collection somewhere of his plans and boats? Now that would be a great thing to add to BRF. Thanks for the information wolfgang. The more I can get the better.

[stickmann]

http://ronjonesdesign.com/index.html

[SS 201]

Thats looks like Canadian number CE

[Mark75H]

Yeah, Gull Lake, Alberta is in Canada

[curbman]

Thats looks like Canadian number CE

CP would be Canadian Prairies and the CE would be Canadian East.
So this boat would have come from Toronto or Valleyfield area would be nice if someone
knows of the driver or boat. I am doing some research with Ron Jones Sr. he does have
an ongoing list of boats with associated customs. I am hoping to get all the information on
this boat I need to get it back together and on the water.

[curbman]

So I am up and running thanks to all for the help.

[JohnsonM50]

What a find! Looks like a 280ci/5ltr Ron Jones. Good luck with your project.
280 class left about 3 choices, 265 Chevy, 260 Ford or the 273 Chrysler. The latter was produced mostly as a performance engine. Chrysler Direct Connection 'in the day' offered 10-1/2 : 1 pistons, chrome-molly valve train [these had solid lifters], dual point ignition, a perf cam made for this.. forgot the #s & a carb. These would bump the hp up from the Formuls S version @ 273ci & hp to 325hp. Id guess you would have to use the production Formula S engine tho.
Even if in lesser condition its a real cool boat. I was watching a 280 go thru its paces a couple years back from nearby, unfortunately it was a blustery fall day. He couldn't really put the power to it much.

[wolfgang]

280 class left about 3 choices, 265 Chevy, 260 Ford or the 273 Chrysler. The latter was produced mostly as a performance engine. Chrysler Direct Connection 'in the day' offered 10-1/2 : 1 pistons, chrome-molly valve train [these had solid lifters], dual point ignition, a perf cam made for this.. forgot the #s & a carb. These would bump the hp up from the Formuls S version @ 273ci & hp to 325hp. Id guess you would have to use the production Formula S engine tho.
Even if in lesser condition its a real cool boat. I was watching a 280 go thru its paces a couple years back from nearby, unfortunately it was a blustery fall day. He couldn't really put the power to it much.

Imho, the hardest engine to beat in 5lt routright speed is the 302 Ford Boss (Cleveland based). I think the world kilo record is still held by an Argentinian using that engine. To build a sharp 302 Boss is about 3 times as expensive (PAW catalogue) as a good Formula 5000 Chevy 302 based engine like my buddy Karl Heinz Nickel from Cologne used in his S4 Cormorant catamaran. He made the switch to Chevy power after breaking 3 BMW 3.5ltr cylinder heads in one season, with turbocharging the BMW. The BMW made so much power so suddenly that at the first trial run it twisted the propshaft of the Volvo offshore drive right off, when the boost came in with a bang. No such trouble with the docile Chev, being normally aspirated with 2x450cfm special 4-barrel Holleys with mech secondary actuation.
A good Ford alternative is the 4V Windsor, parts for which are much cheaper than for anything Cleveland. Even the ports in the standard cast iron cylinder heads flow reasonably well. It helped friends of mine to a number of European and German championships.
This being the 21st century, (and if you do not want to go the by no means cheap vintage circuit) I would go for the Lexus V8 engine, which is lightweight and better than any US pushrod or BMW engine. But then, it will be upgraded pistons, conrods, 4 new cams instead of one, 8 throttle bodies and injectors, Motec or similar ECU. Beats the pants off any pushrod V8, as seen in quite a few popular car racing series. rgds,
Wolfgang