the last Sport E kilo record

[Roy Hodges]

Does anybody know what the last sport E kilo record is ?
also what is the kilo record for sst 60 ? Thanks
Sorry if i asked this in wrong column .

[Fast Fred]

SST60 is right about 96mph last i knew:cool:

[MN1]

Seems like SE was around 91 mph, but I'm not sure.
Mark N

[Ron Hill]

Chris may know....Sport E never had a NOSE CONE, if I recall correctly...

Bobby Gibson may know, too... Anyone have his phone number?

[Miss BK]

I didn't see any KILO records on the UIM site, but did find the 5 mile average record.

If I had to guess, I'd bet Greg holds the SE Kilo too.



2905

22/08/1987
GREG JACOBSEN USA Outboard Performance Class / Sport E / 5 m
72.82 MPH
117.18 KMH

[Ron Hill]

Jake answered with more than I ask...

here is what Jake said:


I set it in 1989 at D-Lake

94.118 mph Ed Karelsen Sport E Boat - Ron Anderson 27-Pitch Prop

We had the boat running 97MPH in testing.


Jake is: Greg Jacobsen, AKA Sea Way Marine...

[Roy Hodges]

Jake answered with more than I ask...

here is what Jake said:


I set it in 1989 at D-Lake

94.118 mph Ed Karelsen Sport E Boat - Ron Anderson 27-Pitch Prop

We had the boat running 97MPH in testing.


Jake is: Greg Jacobsen, AKA Sea Way Marine...
Better'n i had thought. would that propellor be a reworked OMC cleaver? On my old boat, a V-4 prop was much faster &faster accelerating than with a 3cyl. prop .

[Ron Hill]

Ron,

I am getting too old to remember.

Correction on the record - the one that I just told you about was the SST-60 Record not the Sport E.

I do however hold the Sport E UIM record also.

That I set in 1980 at 86.212 MPH - Driving a Hering boat with a Prop that Ron Anderson did for me - not sure what size it was?

Greg

Not doubting Jake, but I thought BK said there was no UIM Record for SE. Does UIM "RETIRE" Records after a few years....As my DU kilo record, Mark 55-H, 525 pounds, was a UIM record and no on that I ever knew of, broke that record at that weight...

[Miss BK]

When Brad set the 5mi APBA SST-60 record, it was a world record too. But UIM requires a $300 homologation fee (per 1991) to make it "official", and then you can get the certificate and cool painting of your boat too. If you don't pay the fee, it doesn't get recorded. But it doesn't mean the record wasn't set.

Maybe that's why it isn't showing on that list? I don't know.

[Miss BK]

Anyone remember when Greg Jacobsen ran his SE boat at Havasu with all the BIG boats? That same weekend I remember watching the guys from the Mercury truck plastering those huge Mercury stickers all over his boat in the pits when he wasn't around. lol.

Fun days.

BK~

[Ron Hill]

I have two pictures from UIM, but don't recall paying for them...I never got any pictures for my C, D and F Runabout records...I'd lke to see if they were ever UIM records...

Talk about Havasu...Remember when Castelli ran my V-8 in MOD U???

[Miss BK]

Talk about Havasu...Remember when Castelli ran my V-8 in MOD U???

I don't remember it at Havasu - but do remember it running Parker. That motor was HUGE! It towered above me. In fact we all hummed the theme song from JAWS whenever we saw it coming toward us. "da dum.......da Dum....DA DUM DA DUM DA DUM DA DUM!"

I also remember another scene from Havasu - when Castelli had that 2x4 hanging out of the rear transom where that big hole was in a Hydrostream. When he passed the judges stand we all saw that big board hanging out and gasped! LOL Was that your boat Ron?

[Ron Hill]

We ran the V-8 on the GRAY LAVEY....

Jim Harris ran my RED HST, with our Yamaha (During the time that 2.4 Mercs could run High Performance heads)......Harris won several races when he ran "HIGH PERFORMANCE HEADS, TOO!)...

Castelli ran the black and white HST that Howard Pipkorn built for me, and a Jeff Baker 2.4...Later John ran a motor that my dad and John built...

[Ron Hill]

When Howard built the first HST's for racing, he had some new RESIN or something....and he built them very light...We broke a hole in Castelli's Black and White one (The 2 X 4 boat you were talking about)...putting it on the trailer..

The Red One of Harris's, after the last havasu, we de-rigged it and when we sat it on the floor the whole boat went FLAT......It took two fork lifts to get it in the dumpster.....It was sad to see her go...but she was a GONER!!!!

[Roy Hodges]

[QUOTE=RonHill]When Howard built the first HST's for racing, he had some new RESIN or something....and he built them very light...
He built a real light stream for Paul Bender ,early 70's , so light that it twisted in the turns ,Paul said. He was running a 135 V-4 -won his class races up here (reg11 ) easily .

[Roy Hodges]

remember that funny lookin boat with a "fishing" V-8 " , it was white colored , i think. It was some weird hull, a funny kind of tri-hull . not very fast ,maybe 90 mph, I think maybe Bob Larson might have CO-drove it . a big sucker , as i remember . Might have been the same year that the inboard (i o ) with the jag- u- were V-12 won . (limeys call them THAT )

[Miss BK]

I remember around that time, seeing Johnny Clickenbeard run into an HST that had spun out in one of the St Louis turns. The HST was smashed badly and was unrepairable, but Johnny made it back to the ramp.

When Johnny came in, he had a 20 inch hole in the front of his sponson with some black 'fabric' hanging out of it. We pulled about a 4 foot piece of "fabric" out of the hole and shook it like a rug. It was the lightweight kevlar deck of the HST - yes, KEVLAR - but the most dry layup I had ever seen. I have pictures of it somewhere...

Probably was the same glass layup you guys are talking about.

[Ron Hill]

Bobby Larson and Jeff Briggs won the 9 Hour with a fishing V-6 powerhead...

I was just a Big Black and White Scotti..

The V-8 Castelli ran was at Havasu, about 90 is right...It was a Lavey MOD VP we built for the V-8...

3.6 GT Johnson, we later put this same motor on a 21 Daytona, and ran it at Parker. Later John Castelli ran it at the KILOS at 118, I think...I sold the boat and told John he wasn't running anything of mine, form then on, without a capsule...

A couple of pictures of Castelli in the V-8...

[Miss BK]

da dum.......................da dum................................

[Roy Hodges]

Bobby Larson and Jeff Briggs won the 9 Hour with a fishing V-6 powerhead...

I was just a Big Black and White Scotti..

The V-8 Castelli ran was at Havasu, about 90 is right...It was a Lavey MOD VP we built for the V-8...

3.6 GT Johnson, we later put this same motor on a 21 Daytona, and ran it at Parker. Later John Castelli ran it at the KILOS at 118, I think...I sold the boat and told John he wasn't running anything of mine, form then on, without a capsule...

A couple of pictures of Castelli in the V-8...
I am not talking about the year Bob Larson won, i am asking about a goofy looking trimaran , with a V-8. it had a center sponson up front , two side sponsons in the back . A different year............ Do you know the whole story of intrigue , that went on between larson, Ireland, and jack Leek , to get this scotti winner put together that year (1976,I think?) & Paul Bender , too? Hint; Ireland was the prime mover in the scenario. (these questions for Ron )

[Ron Hill]

" I am asking about a goofy looking trimaran" I'm pretty sure that was US. Gray and white MOD VP boat, but larger than MOD VP, big V-8 (I have a few pictures of it and will look for them..).....and it went about 90 and didn't handle well at all...For Parker, the next spring, Bob Leach gave me that 21 foot Eliminator (The one in the picture...blue and white)...

Paul Bender, if I'n not mistaken came fro a family that had an OMC dealership around Stockton, Tom Ireland was Paul's friend.. I met Tom and Paul in Needles, at a race I put on...I think it ws the weekend that Ed Lane got hurt, spring 1967, I'm guessing...I was dealing with OMC and doing some racing and had dreams of it becoming a full time "JOB"...

I shot the bull with these two, they were about my age, they liked racing and all...I said, "If you apply for a job at OMC, I'll put in a good work for you with Ann (Ann Strang was Charlie's mother and she liked me). Paul and Tom went to work for OMC, Tom became head of service and Paul got some West Coast job in service also....The two stayed friends and raced several boats. The problem with OMC, and I think it wa discussed here...The Management saw things their way and didn't seem to care want their employees thought......After Tom's Scotti won St. Louis, with....Jeff.....not Green, Jeff.....and worked over the OMC Factory...Tom's racing, outside the COMPANY was stopped...

He came back later, with Paul and they raced some MOD VP....I really don't have any personal knowledge of the black and white Scotti that Bobby Larson and Jeff (Geoff, "GOOF" at Ted May called him)... But with Jim Briggs being the largest stock holder in OMC, he may have helps Paul Bender and Tom Ireland put the rig together....AS Paul's territory was NorCal..and Larson was from Stockton...

As I posted under the Demise of OMC......If you helped OMC, they tell you how you screwed up and how THEY fixed it...Yamaha and other Japanese Companies, when you help them, they thank you and offer to pay you or pay you...That, I have first hand knowledge of!!!!! An I know you ain't supposed to end a sentences with a prepositon...

[Miss BK]

" I am asking about a goofy looking trimaran"

Ron,

I think Roy is talking about that big white monster that ran Parker - we nicknamed it the "SS ENTERPRISE" because it looked like a space craft. I'm trying to remember who was driving it....It was called a Triton or something like that.

I just asked Brad and he thinks it was a Carlson-designed boat - didn't one of the Murphy's co-drive it? Was that yours???

[Ron Hill]

George Vanaris, who made bunch of money importing Ricaro Seats, from Italy, designed the Triton. Al Stoker drove one of the first ones in Offshore, not sure all the details but they ended up, upside down (In San Franscisco Bay)....I think.. And Al quit driving it...

Vern Gust, Outboard Ski Racer, had one with a V-8 and still has it. It might be the one Pat Murphy drove at Parker... The same year we ran the V-8 on the 21 Daytona...Don't have any pictures of Pat that day, but I think he finished fifth overall...Seems Wilkes Marine was in our class with a smaller tunnel, they ended up like second overall, first in class...The v-8's were ahead of them but we all had trouble....

Art Carlson's Mod VP he sold to Star Craft, had many of the same lines and ideas..at least they loked that way to me...

[Miss BK]

keep in mind.....If the record setter decides to forego having his world record homologated by the UIM, then the record will not be added to the books.

[Roy Hodges]

keep in mind.....If the record setter decides to forego having his world record homologated by the UIM, then the record will not be added to the books............................................. .........
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I have been told that it is NOT cheap to get a U I M homo'ed . It seems they like $ ,just like everybody else with their hand out .