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Ron Hill
06-10-2007, 10:55 AM
In 1959, I managed to finish second in DU at the Seattle Stock Outboard Nationals, I was 15. Most Region 12 Boat Racers, thought I'd won the 1959 Nationals...but I won't go there, now. I had finished second with a borrowed prop. It was Charlie Slough's Kamic, and Cliff Bedford had "Pounded" a little speed into just before the final heat...we never tested it, after the "Pounding" but assumed it helped as I was very fast...

In the winter of 1959-60, Bob Martin was race Cahirman of SCOA. He worked with the "Land Swindlers" at Salton Sea. Bob got some "SERIOUS" money, at the time, to put on races during the winter months at Salton Sea. The "Land Swindlers" liked to bring bus loads of people from LA, wine them, dine them and sell them a LOT. Part of their sales and marketing plans, was to show these LA people that Salton Sea had "ACTION" all the time and was "GROWING".

The races weren't really big, but the club made good money on each event, and by making money racing at Salton Sea, SCOA had money to sponsor other races. The races were always on Sunday, so Saturday was testing all day...and if the sea was calm, she was "Flat as a Nun's a Ch&%t" and that's pretty flat...

So, we'd "TEST". The Old Man ASSUMED we could not BORROW PROPS and win Nationals, so he bought ONE, $32 Kamic, from Mercury. We had NO CLUE how fast DU's were supposed to go, as we'd never used a speedometer in a DU. We knew what a CU should go, as I'd raced CU all 1959.

In 1960, they'd passed a rule that a DU driver had to be 16, and I would not be 16 until April, so, we weren't even sure I could race DU again until April....But had been racing until were heard from APBA.

So, we had been borrowing Ted May's " CUT CARY" (The reason it was CUT, was that Ted had manged to run a ground, one of the thousand of times he did this...). (Ted never seems to realize that just because there was water, the water might not be deep enough to run a boat in...). D Hydro wheel and see how fast it would go...I had borrowed it for the last two or three races, which I had won, a string of DU races that lasted 56 in a row....in Region 12...

My dad wasn't going to pay DeSilva's NO 90 DOLLARS for a Cary, too much money he said....On a SIDE BAR HERE!!! Cary props had an unconditional guarantee because they were "hand forged"... What Cary didn't think of, was Ted May thinning them down like paper, rechroming them, and when a ear came off, going and getting another one....Another story, for another day...

Anyway, Ted's Cut Cary went about 58 MPH. So, we figured, "Hell, we won last month, 58 MPH must be pretty good..." So, we put on this new Kamic and she went 55....MPH

Now, my OLD MAN wasn't one to admit defeat easily, but he did know that 58 was much faster than 55, considering my CU would go 53-54 MPH...

So, my dad smeared "LIMPSTICK" on the blades. It was Ted May's idea, he said we could see where the prop was working...He told us not to use "Non Smear" lipstick or you'd have to run 50 laps before it wore off.. He said, "Always use the cheap lipstick."

Ted May was famous for stories, most didn't seem true at all,, but they were so good we didn't care if they were true or not. This "LIPSTICK" on the blades seemed like another "TED MAY STORY"...But the Old Man couldn't return his $32 Kamic now that it was used and coming up with $90 dollars for a Cary seemed "Out of the question"...NINETY DOLLAR FOR A PROP????

So, we borrowed some "Cheap" lipstick from Mary Anderson, best looking woman in the pits, but she admitted to wearing "Cheap" lipstick...

Well, I come in an the lip stick is gone, except all around the trailing edges. Ted's got this five pound block of lead and a brass hammer. He and my dad, talk this over and they start pounding on the trailing edges of this prop....A lot of "GOOD CLEAN CUSSING" going on and I stay away...

Finally, they yell, "Ronnie, get your jacket and helmet on." Now boat driving, I like...

Out I go, I think I see 57 MPH...but had run for about five miles, in the smooth water right on the shoreline....So, I come back and say, "56 for sure, maybe 57...." Hell, of course, no one put lipstick on the prop....

So, we quickly smear on lipstick and I take a "Quick" run and "Bump" 57 on the Keller....

We lift my DU out of the water...I weigh about 165 at the time, DU weight is like 550 or 575...and taking the boat out damn nears kills Ted May, me and the Old Man...We ALL look at the prop, and "DAMN" still a lot of lipstick on the trailing edges...

Ted and My Dad, go to work pounding on the blades...Now they are using Car Keys to see what they are doing...as gaining even an HONEST mile per hour is BIG TIME...This time, we smear the prop with lipstick and I don't get far and see 58 MPH, now I'm thinking, "Damn, Ted May and his ideas.."

We lift that DU out again, and there is still quite of bit of lipstick left on the wheel...I tell The OLD AMN, give me another mile and we'll have "US" a prop...Ted and my dad always worked together with a "LOVE HATE" relationship....A lot of Cussing, as now Ted and My dad have become "EXPERTS"....

To make a LONG STORY SHORTER, it is near dark, and I see 62 MPH... Then, my dad, knocked it down to 61.....he said he could put the mile back...I asked him if he was sure...As I said 61 was DAMN GOOD and I could win with EASE...He said he could put it back... And he did...As the sun was going down, that March Saturday, I came in with a 62 MPH Keller reading...

7 MPH increase with a day of HAMMERING.... That night, we were staying the Hoffbrau House, Ted and My dad tried to pound on Ted's "CUT Cary"...Ted and My dad, are down of the floor of this Hotel pounding on this CARY PROP and the SUMBITCH won't bend.... (No one thought of using a torch on a props...They must of hammered on Ted's "CUT CARY" for two hourss, they were mashing fingers, dirtying up towels and cussing like you'll seldom hear... But they never got the Cary to bend...

I've taken some pictures of this prop that I set fastest time in DU (Won the Pat Ryan Trophy for fast DU time at the Nationals)..at the 1960 Beloit, Wisconsin Stock Outboard Nationals...I won the first heat and lead four restarts, before FINALLY being DQ's for gun jumping, Dean Chenoweth said I started 9th...

I sold this prop to John York when he ran C Runabout, I got this prop back for John York last year...If you look at the trailing edges you can see how uneven they are, but this uneveneess is due to pounding on the prop with a small brass hammer...This prop is 48 years old...The red is like the lipstick was then...

NOTE: My dad slotted this prop to run on a Yamato, you can see his stamp on the prop...

Last Add: That Salton Sea day, changed my life forever, as it became clear to me, that propellers were not "MAGIC", that "Magic" was in the eye of the man (men) with the hammer...Thanks Ted and dad...

russhill
06-10-2007, 01:27 PM
Was the prop you talk about here, the same one Bunker used years later to win 17 consecutive Yamato Runabout races?

Ron Hill
06-10-2007, 01:49 PM
Actually, Russ, the class was called 20SS Runabout, and was half of the best two classes in California, 20SS Hydro being the other half. 20 SS Runbout got merged with BU when Ernie Dawe got "Swindled" by the 20-H owners....

Anyway, When Pop Smith started doing our props, I sent him YOUR (Merlyn) Culver Kamic, a "SQUARE HUB" of which I do not have. Pop reworked your Culver Kamic, the one you cut your leg on at the San Diego Divisionals, 1962....

This Kamic handled better than the Beloit Kamic, and when I cut the "EARS" OFF" like Kenny Pyle said to do, the prop became my favorite DU and DSH prop. I won the 1964, 1966, 1966 Marathon, 1968 Marathon, 1970 Nationals with your Culver Kamic...I also ran this prop to second place in the 1966 and 1968 D Hydro Nationals, 2nd in 1967 DU, 2nd in 1968 DU. Loved that prop I did!!

It wasn't until "FISHING BLOCKS" were made legal that I started making Michigan wheels for runabouts... And after Billy Allen "Handed me my lunch" at Hinton, WV, 1976, that I decided I needed to work on props.

Bunker would test his AU and I'd test my DU, every other weekend, the winter of 1976-77...We'd go to San Diego's Flood Control Channel and test. We'd have lunch at Bo Wevil's in San Diego after testing. We'd be home by three for a quick nap...

In the spring of 1977, Tom Ige starting buying props for his Model 80 Yamato, and I sold him Michigans.

At one point that winter I had 10 almost identical DU Michigan wheels. Of course, I kept the best for myself. Number Two, would later become known as The "BUNKER" wheel, number three went to John Castelli, and he still has it. Number four went to Billy Allen, and the last six all went to Bob Davidson. (At the time I wasn't happy that he bought all six...)..But it was money!

This (Prop in the picture) is a "BUNKER" wheel that was owned by your friend, the late Tom Goldstone, I've been restoring it for my Propeller Museum. She needs to be re-faced on the slot side, and cup added. But basically, she is a Dick Sedor (Grubby as Michigan Wheel people called him) blank, that I added the "Kenny Pyle" touch, thinned, and cupped... 7 X 11 Michigan, they's still run well in A Stock Hydro and still wins now in then in 20 SS Hydro...

NOTE: The Square Hub Culver Kamic I've talked about should not be confused with the Culver Michigan (Also owned by Russ Hill Jr.).., that Ruben Dawe reworked on the trailer hitch ball of his 1958 Ford truck, that Jeff Fritz went on to win the 1961 Nationals in B Stock Hydro...NOTE: in BRF Jimbo McConnell tells how Ruben worked on props, he'd only use one eye, so as to not hit his fingers with the hammer.