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Techteam
11-30-2007, 06:02 AM
This is for sale in the UK. Is it of interest to any classic guy's over your way.

Skoontz
11-30-2007, 06:16 AM
I'm not a Merc guy and have to ask this.....First, very cool looking motor....

Second....When did Merc use 6 carbs on the inline six's? I thought they were all 3 carbs with bigger bores....

brichter
11-30-2007, 06:28 AM
Its a T2 powerhead on a super BP/T1 mid and an OMC 1:1 lower.

This thing needs to get separated and sent in three different directions, Its worth more in pieces than it is assembled.

Beale Tilton
11-30-2007, 10:39 AM
Skoontz---Mercury C6, 1973 or 74.

mac19f
11-30-2007, 11:45 AM
I looks like a T2 midsection also. The T1 mid has the exhaust log return hole in the side. Plus the T1 and BP mid have a different powerhead stud pattern from the T2.

I think it's just a T2 engine with a KC/KR OMC gearcase and a homemade exhaust.

Skoontz
11-30-2007, 02:15 PM
The $64.00 question....What's it's owner got to get for it?

largecar91
11-30-2007, 02:40 PM
This thing was on scream & fly about 1 1/2 years ago. It has the Morgan carbs on it so it probably is a T2-C6 with an OMC foot. The cowling is from a T2X. I am thinking they wanted a few grand for it.

Mark75H
11-30-2007, 02:52 PM
Seems to me it was more than a couple grand they wanted ... pretty unrealistic and the falling value of the US dollar isn't going to help.

The motor has little or no historic significance with the conglomeration of makes, years and styles of parts bolted and welded together

With the Morgan carbs the motor could be as early as 1971 and the tower could be a BP. By 73 Merc was selling customer versions of the 6 carb racing motor as the T-2

Despite the Morgan carbs I'd hope it was a T2/140 type block and T2 mid. A picture of the other side would help narrow down the block style and a picture showing the top of the mid section (just under the steering bar wing) will show whether the mid is a BP or T2. The BP has bosses for the valence cover around the powerhead studs, the T2 has big heavy bosses for steering bar mounting.

Mark75H
11-30-2007, 03:51 PM
Inventory list:

OMC lower unit

Super BP or T2 mid section

C-6 front

Morgan carbs

unknown powerhead

cut up T2X cowl

Home made exhaust pipes

Techteam
12-01-2007, 05:54 AM
I'll do a little more digging to see if I can find out any more history or what exactly it is . It has been for sale for a while but it's not something that will sell easily over here as we do not have a big historic following. It's not me selling it, it is a dealer I use for parts sometimes, I just saw it and thought somebody could give it a good home.

Skoontz
12-01-2007, 07:35 AM
The other thing is, those exhaust pipes would have to slow that thing down over refining a tuned system, unless of couse they wer ejust the lead pipes into something we are not seeing in the photo....

largecar91
12-01-2007, 08:01 AM
It could be a Super Bp mid. In the top photo, it kind of looks like it has the lip for the horseshoe lower cover?

Mark75H
12-01-2007, 09:11 AM
It could be a Super Bp mid. In the top photo, it kind of looks like it has the lip for the horseshoe lower cover?

That's what I think I see too. If it is, the whole thing might have originally been a pre T-2 "C-6" from around 1970 ... but from someone who would put an Evinrude lower unit on it, it might be a regular 135 with the Morgan carb front, too.

What we know and what we don't know about this motor are both scarry ... so there isn't a lot of incentive for a collector to spend a lot of cash on it. If the owner would sell it at a reasonable price, the parts could go their respective ways (including some into the trash) and straighten out/complete some other projects

Skoontz is right ... 6 open pipes probably DECREASED the actual power of this motor. The worst thing about the exhaust is the T2X cowling being sawed up; something that once had significant value now has very little. I'm having a mental block and can't remember the name of the engineer who refined the T2/140 exhaust ... if this is an early Morgan engineering group motor, it would have pretty much used standard 135 exhaust as Dr. Morgan and his group were working on the front and the other guys were working on the back as completely separate projects. The T-2 and T-2X resulted from combining both projects and giving up on the square carbs

Skoontz
12-01-2007, 09:22 AM
If I see the scraped paint the way it appears, it does look like something slid over the open ends of those bent tubes....It would be very interesting to see what if anything, that may have been....

largecar91
12-01-2007, 09:33 AM
I have T2's (I will call them T2's some are C6 and T2x), that have the exhaust stuffer that is open on the bottom like a stock engine and some are closed like the stacker stuffers. The early motors have a finned exhaust plate(like a 135) instead of the smooth alum. cover plate on the later motors. Some have 2 ring pistons with a huge transfer port in them and some are 3 ring pistons. They definetly made several configurations of the 6 carb motor. All have T2 cranks. I assume some are factory race engines and some are consumer race engines.

MN1
12-01-2007, 09:41 PM
If I see the scraped paint the way it appears, it does look like something slid over the open ends of those bent tubes....It would be very interesting to see what if anything, that may have been....

I think that's just from being BLAZING HOT!!!!
Mark N

Techteam
12-05-2007, 08:17 AM
I think I've replied to everyone that PM'd asking for details.