Sport C Boat

[Dago Fast]

Second Dago Fast Sport C boat.

[Dago Fast]

In the mold, ready to hatch.

[Mark75H]

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[Dago Fast]

Now if I can just coordinate text with pictures.

[Dago Fast]

Hatching...

[Ron Hill]

Looks good..

Post a price or prices...like finished, rigged, unrigged... with motor without...

[Powercat]

Am I correct that the deck and hull were molded together as
one unit from the two molds? Neat idea, always wanted to
try doing that...
Danny Leger

[Dago Fast]

I used two molds. Popped the bottom part out of the mold and put it on top of the deck which I left in its mold. I then tilted the the mold at a 45 degree angle and stood inside the cockpit and glassed the perimeter seams and then pullled both parts out.

Jim

[Dago Fast]

Looks good..

Post a price or prices...like finished, rigged, unrigged... with motor without...


$3,800.00 Includes Seat, Rear cowling. Does not include motor, Steering, Trim pump, ram head protection, wiring, shift or throttle cables, battery or fuel tank.

Includes reinforced cockpit, and break away sponson tips and required flotation.

[Powercat]

Oh, I see, well that holds the deck in alignment so it won't deform when
bonding the seam together, makes sense.
I threw together a web page for you if you would like to advertise your
boats for sale.. http://www.powercatboat.com/SportC/
at the link above... ( just for fun, cuz I like the boat...)
Just let me know what other contact info you would like to include..
Danny Leger :)
I used two molds. Popped the bottom part out of the mold and put it on top of the deck which I left in its mold. I then tilted the the mold at a 45 degree angle and stood inside the cockpit and glassed the perimeter seams and then pullled both parts out.
Jim

[Dago Fast]

This is the first Dago Fast Boat being rigged.

[Bill Blackwell]

Nice looking hull.

Is it polyester resin or epoxy? Fiberglass or carbon? Hand layup or vacuum bagged? How much does the bare hull weigh?

I'm guessing that these are polyester resin based on the nice purple finish. It's got to be a gel coat finish.

Sounds like the Sport C class is doing really well in California! I think there were 11 at Shadow Cliffs last year.

Bill B.

[Dago Fast]

Nice looking hull.

Is it polyester resin or epoxy? Fiberglass or carbon? Hand layup or vacuum bagged? How much does the bare hull weigh?

I'm guessing that these are polyester resin based on the nice purple finish. It's got to be a gel coat finish.

Sounds like the Sport C class is doing really well in California! I think there were 11 at Shadow Cliffs last year.

Bill B.
Bill,

You are right. It is polyester resin and fiberglass and purple gel coat. It will be trimmed with yellow and decaled. I'll post pictures as it progresses.
Sport C is growing in Northern Calif. We will have 14 drivers this season.
Thanks for compliment and questions. Bare hull weight of this boat is 187lbs.
Core material is 4.5lb. density closed cell foam sheets. Half inch in hull and quarter inch in deck.

Jim

[TrailerparkTJ]

Is this a "splash" from another sport c boat? It looks very familiar.

[Dago Fast]

Is this a "splash" from another sport c boat? It looks very familiar.

This is not a splash. It was designed by Bill Curtis and the desgn currently holds the Region 11 Kilo record at just over 63mph at minimum weight 675lbs.
The recently retired world speed record of just under 64mph held by Terry Rinker was at 600lbs minimum weight. The bottom has since been redesigned by Bill Curtis and the deck has very minor changes made to it. The core material has been changed from balsa core to solid close cell foam sheets to lessen the load. I will be trying for a new Region 11 kilo record April 23rd and 24th. I'll let you know how I do.

Jim

Know where I can get my hands on a top end prop?

[Ron Hill]

DAGO FAST,

That Thomas at Motion Line has Sport C props that he made for Yamaha Class Something....but he has some HUMMERS trust me....and not just KILO.

Mercury Racing is building the 11 X 18 and maybe 11 X 20 again, but you have to be a racer to buy one and you can't buy more than one, or something like that...I'm not going to tell Mercury I race Sport C, just to buy a prop...

Pop Curtis had that 20 Seebold...Where did that go???

http://www.boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=585

If you look at the selection of props (picture that Sam posted).....those props could be used as the basis of a seminar on cleaver props...If I raced 125 Hydro or runabout, I'd buy them all!!!

[Bill Blackwell]

Hey Dago Fast,

I have another question for you, if you don't mind. Regarding End Grain Balsa as a core material, do you have a trick to keep the end grain balsa from soaking up too much resin? Maybe that's why you switched to foam.

Thanks,
Bill B.

PS - I heard the Sport C guys are having their own test day. Sounds like fun.

[Dago Fast]

Bill,

I swithched to foam core to keep from soaking up water. We get together at Clear Lake a couple of times a year and test our boats and let potential new drivers take a spin in any of our boats that they want to. We set up a couple bouys and run against each other with different props ect. Then we get together Saturday night and have a good time and a good dinner and then Sunday A.M. we try to figure how to lighten our boats without having to eat right and exercise. Thats the way I got started, at a fun day at Clear Lake.

Jim

[hydroc888]

Clear Lake Cal. Another great venue that will never see a boat race. It was great for marathons . Maybe Ron and the tunnels can get it back . Seems like there was good community support up there when we use to race. I remember all the racers going to the super modified car races the night before the boat races and the announcer singleing us out and telling all the fans about the boat racing the next day . Its a great bass fishing lake also , maybe thats the problem . More money brought in by bass fishermen then boat racers. We lost Lake Amador for the same reason . Maybe , just maybe, Salt Springs wont turn into a good fishing lake or we will lose that too.We dont need the same lake to race on week end after weekend , but when we get the use of a lake [ or river] we have to put on something that will make people look forward to the next one, and make the people that are allowing us to be there, money.
Boat racers are weekend Gypsies. They own what they carry with them and rely on others to be able to show what they have to show on there property . If it aint good enough then they aren't invited back .
Got comments ? Let me know
Jack

[Ron Hill]

Regarding the prop, well I just checked out yesterday
to my surprise I found 11 X 18 cleavers (and a lot of them).
However, they are all semifinished, exept one.
By the way, l also found 11 x 17 and 11 x 19.
I have both welded and cast, theese props were originally made for
the TOHATSU M 40 C and Sport C class.
I can´t really understand why we have so many 18" wheels around since
when we raced TOHATSUs some 17 years ago we only used 20" and +,
on the other hand our boat was the fastest on this planet maybe that explains???

Ps. Oh, almost forgot about the price.....
something in the neighbourghood of 500 € + shipment for a good
wheel, but first what kind of boat do you have in mind?

This is from an E-Mail from Thomas. I don't know how much $500 is, but know he does have some good Tohatsu props (Sport C)...

[Dago Fast]

Eddie Gansberger retired from boat racing in 2003. He started racing outboards in 1934. In 1938 he got too busy farming to race. He started again in 1987 in the Sport E class. He moved to Sport C and as far as I know was the oldest active member in APBA when he retired. (Anybody know anyone older?) He is alive and well and has taken up go-kart racing. He will be 91 this year.

[Thomas]

Hey I thought Ralph Donald and Lembit were oldies but
they do not even come close!

Is Eddie as fast as Ralph? :)

[Ron Hill]

Ron,
I am ok. Look at my children's site : www.winrace.no (http://www.winrace.no)
I have one piece castings for Tohatsu 40 in just any pitch.

Best regards,
Olle
Winrace Propellers

Olle makes some fine props and not just for Sport C.

[Dago Fast]

The"Killer Tomato"

[Ron Hill]

I see Thomas's Sport C has a cone...Why don't we have nose cones on Sport C???

[Dago Fast]

This is a picture of my Sport C Gran Prix boat that by the way is for sale for$3,500.00 turnkey.

The Gran Prix, Mirage and most other sport C boats have nose cones.. The Dago Fast Boat and the High Velocity Boats don't. And maybe that is why they are faster.

Jim
Dago Fast Boats

P.S. I think if the nose cone protrudes 12 in. it also must be deformable like the sponson tips.

[Miss BK]

I think Ron's talking about nose cones on the gear cases. I think they are still illegal in Sport C. (unless that rule has changed too???)

[Dago Fast]

The rules say you can contour outside surface but must maintain OEM specs.
What does that mean? The wear plate can be removed and skeg can be sharpened to 1/32 in. radius.

Jim

Miss B.K. Do you have any pics of your Sport C and what was it called?

[TABARARACING]

Nosecones are illegal on sport c. May match the casting to the liner, but must maintain OEM liner ports. May grind up to 5/8" into casting from ports. Plan on buying sleeves if you want to do this.
I'm glad that someones making some sport c boats out there. What are you using for side ear protection? Are you laying up some side ears, and a bulk head out of Kevlar?
Thats great you guys have 14 boats out there. We also in region 8 midwest have 14 boats. We just need to get them all out to the same race. Sport C class is a happening place! Lots of developements in hulls. Mark Nelson has his newer hull design out there. It has proven to be without lead the fastest sport c porbably ever. I seen him keeping up with 45 boats. haha. It was a bit light! (80 lbs?) Sam Labonco and Mark are working out some difficulties, and we hope to see them out to our races.
We have 4 new rookie drivers this year in sport c out here. One of them is 16 year old Josh.
No more complaining about engines not available. I've come up with a solution. I have worked out a way to get brand new 2005 engines into the USA for racing pruposes only. I require apba liscense number and letter of intent. The letter of intent is that the engine will only be used for racing purposes, and will only be sold to another racer.
Tohatsu Japan is about 4 months behind on production on their 40C model. Everytime I call, I get a different total on behind. I've heard 3 months and as great as 5 months. But I've heard 4 the most!
For information on brand new engines, or used engines email brian@tabararacing.com. I don't get on the forums as much as I should.

Brian Tabara
218 273-4304

[Miss BK]

Glad you are here, Brian! You need to come by more often. I had read on your site that you were working on getting new Tohatsu's into the US --- what a boost that would be to Sport C! Way to go.

Jim,
I only raced Sport C for a little while, but then we tweaked on the motor and then I ran Mod-C from then on


This boat belonged to a friend -- it was a Kober Kat Sport C (Actually, it was called O-Nod back then). This was my first race and boy was it rough and windy! But what did I know ;) :eek: I raced against a lot of top names including Bob Carlson. Bob wanted them to cancel the race (it was a ski-race) but they told us to run. Out of 18 boats, only 4 of them made one lap. The rest either crashed or turned back. I was second ;)

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The first boat I owned was a Kober Kat, but my next boat after that was a Mirage Tom Cat I :

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This is a pit stop at the Parker 5 hour mini-Enduro. Craig Schaid was my co-driver. We switched out every hour. The guy carrying me out was Formula One champ Sergio Calvo.

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[Miss BK]

The Parker 5 hour was fun, but the biggest challenge was the Havasu Classic. Over 65 entries would make the course VERY crowded. Sport C, C production, Mod-C and SST 45 all raced together. It was CRAZY!

I never got to finish this race. I ran it three times: The first race was canceled after we had 13 crashes in just 12 minutes. We ran out of rescue boats. Then I crashed in the next two.

That's my white Kober Kat at the very bottom. Rick Hoffman is out front. Greg Foster, Todd Bowden, John Castelli, Jason Campbell, Joe Johnson and Bob Wartinger are in this mess too. Chris Bush even ran with us a few times.

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[Dago Fast]

Is this a picture of you or the Race Queen?

Jim

[Miss BK]

um..thanks... :o :blushing:

No, that really is me ;)

But brings up another story ...in 1988/89, the Havasu Classic actually started having a Trophy King along with a Trophy Queen. That was awesome.

The Queen still gave out the trophies (with kisses to the guys), but at the same time, the King gave out red roses to either:
a) the winning female driver or
b) the winning male driver's score keeper

The girls who worked registration came up with that idea when they saw how awkward it was for a female driver to accept a trophy from another female. :eek: It just didn't have the same effect. LOL

[Dago Fast]

Looks like a Merc on the first boat picture.. Were they once legal for Sport C?

Jim
Dago Fast

[Ron Hill]

When Val and Kristi were around the races we didn't need no stinking Trophy Queens...Those two would cause accident on the freeway....I ain't seen Kristi (She was Rick Hoffman's WOMAN) for sixteen years, but I have seen Val..and she is still a LOOKER...

Val, I'll be in Kingman, Saturday...is your mom listed in the phone book???

***** Mercuries in Sport C......Sure...Yamahas, Johnsons and Evinrudes, too...
But remember WHO wrote the rules.....Ron Hill was getting MONEY for trophies and Insurance from Western Engine Distributors for C-NOD racing....(Vee HUll with 30 HP, aluminum props)... I figured out that a 40 Tahatsu had like 35 cubic inches, Mercury had a 44 Cubic inch 40 HP, Evinrude had a 40 HP, 44 cubic inch motor.....so, being that I was in TOHATSU'S POCKET... I knew that the OMC and MERC motors would push the 35 cubic inch TOHASU BACKWARD....So I wrote the rule that the max cubic inch was 35....

You could buy a new 40 Tohasu for $800.....Western Engine was buying trophies and insurance, we were racing for free...Western Engine brought a support trailer to the races....

What happened....? A BRAIN SURGEON at VOLVO took the Western Engine's Volvo Dealership from them and gave it to some Jersey company....(Western Engine sued and won something like $20 miliion for breech of contract and won....Volvo Sterndrives suffered....and the Tohatsu business went in the &hitter....

What should be done to Sport C, is have a SPORT C LOCAL with 44 Merc and 44 Evinrude and Johnson be legal!!!! (Stay tunned)...

[Miss BK]

Here's me and Kristi at the Parker Mini Enduro about 1987. We had just discovered that we ran the last two hours of the race with a curved skeg and a big piece missing out of one of the blades. Kristi had hit the beach during her leg prior to my turn, and never told me. (6 mile course) I thought I had just become too tired to hang on to the wheel! LOL
The guy who made that prop (the late Jeff Wilson) is seen storming off in the background...
We still managed to finish 4th - we sure had a lot of fun! but 5 hours is a lonnnng time.

[Dago Fast]

After the picture of those two tomatoes, here's a picture of the "Killer Tomato"

[Thomas]

Good work Drago Fast,

Finally someone has understood to round the front edge
of the tunnel, which is easier to do in fiberglass!

Let´s see if the big guys in "F 1" will follow after some
years?