I believe that is Bill Travis...I know he ran a Seebold/Johnson in SST with a similar paint scheme.....I don't remember the number for sure.....Can anyone verify?
I think he was from Region 8.
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I believe that is Bill Travis...I know he ran a Seebold/Johnson in SST with a similar paint scheme.....I don't remember the number for sure.....Can anyone verify?
I think he was from Region 8.
Hey Ray,
Danny here I have tons of photos I took back in the day :) hey have you spoken with Bill Fleck lately. Click on the photo link below, I will try to add more photos when I get the time.
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Ray,
Do you remember who I bought the yellow boat from in my avatar :D hint it was red and the owner lived on the eastern shore of Maryland :)
Danny
I think I drove that boat when it was red. Nice to hear from you. I have e mailed you several times in the last year. But no luck. You have good thing on that other web site!! But dont for get those tunnel boats.
And yes I talk with Bill often and go to his shop in Easton about twice a summer. Would like to meet you there sometime.Post more pictures from region 4.
Remember the older I get the faster I was!!!
Cool stuff, Dan! Keep that scanner warmed up so we can see more!
One last photo for the night :)
Danny
That 121 boat is a sport J class, but dont remember the driver. Your second picture is my Seabold/Merc sport G boat. I dont have but one picture of that boat, thanks for the post!
Ray, talking about dredging up the past! Jimmy Rogerson built Rayner's SJ (835)and Mark Dillow's SG (831). I rigged both of them. Rayner said he always had to follow me and put in one steel bolt to rust so he would feel at home:D. The 270 looks like my McCall that I raced twice and flipped once. I bought it from ? Anderson in Wilmington NC. I remember it as originally being a kneel-down SG boat, but it was a sit-down SE when I bought it. I think the boat went towards Richmond when I sold it.
Wish I could find some of my old pics. If so I will attempt to post some.
Smokey, that sounds like the Rayner I know. Most likely adder a little duct tape also.
Smokey
Did you buy the McCall from W.T. Anderson? I talked with him a few months ago. He said he didnt know where the boat went. I have been looking for a 14 foot McCall, mine went to Petersburg, Va. but thats all I can find out. I am posting 2 pictures of McCalls, these were taken at the Mt Dora, Fl. antique outboard show last year. Could the bottom boat be the old W.T. Anderson/Smokey boat?
Is the boat in the top picture a kneeldown boat? If so, what HP of motor was ran on it? How did it handle? Was the motor fixed or did it have trim? I have thought that us outboarders should have been looking into this type of design so it would open up the amount of places we could race at. Thanks.
Joe
The boat in the top rack in the picture I posted is a 14ft neal down McCall tunnel boat. This was build in 1974 as a Kilo boat. Not sure what size motor mabey E class 50hp or 65hp or mabey a G class 85hp or more. The engine was fixed, no power trim. I race several neal down McCall tunnels in that time frame.Neal down tunnels were raced in OPC from about 1968 thru 1975.
Do you know region 4 produced over 40- OPC National Champions from 1966 to about 1987!
Lets hear some stories about Lake Eufaula, we had our Nationals there about 5 years.
Joe
Here are more neal down McCall boats from the 60s & 70s.
1-- SG class McCall/ 700 Merc
2--same
3--How about a twin engine neal down??
4--same
5--SE McCall flat bottom.6--SG McCall running
7--SE McCall running
The more things change the more they stay the same!
Now I have pictures of different brands of neal down OPC boats!
That appears to be a boat owned by Paul Angel from Williamsburg, VA (my home town). Are any of these photo's from Toano, VA (Kilo's) or Portsmouth, VA? It has been 20 years or more, but I remember Paul still did engine work at is house after he sold the Marina and he still had a number of boats in his shed.
David
I remember your Dad when I was active in OPC. Saw him and you (you were a little boy) at many region 4 meetings!! You are correct about the McCall boat and Paul. Only picture I know for sure is that of Bobby running at West Point, Va with bridge in background. Paul is now in his 80s and still working on outboards in his back yard. I talked with him last summer. He is also active in turkey shooting contest.
As Smokey said when he started this thread, region 4 OPC was the place to race. Did you know at our high point we had in 1974 85 racing members. You could race most weekends from April until the Kilos in Oct. Ha the good old days!!
Ray,
Check out the two boats beside me in my new signature photo :D Bill Fleck in the 401 out of Easton, Maryland and Bill Slivey out of Baltimore with the Johnson V4 :) man those were the days :D
The photo was taken by CW Pack during the 1983 Budweiser Cambridge Classic.
Danny
Those were the good old days. I still keep in contact with Bill Fleck, go to his shop in Easton 2 or 3 times a summer. Bill Slivey I have not seen or heard about him since we stopped racing. Do you know how to reach him?
I picked this picture of a Switizer Wing with a couple of Mercs running it from either Lake Laurence, WA or D Lake, Oregon. These were lifted from videos done by Jim Hallum who at the time was specializing in getting Britsh Anzani Alkys in the 15 and 20 cubic inch range going over 90 for the A and over 100 mph for the B in the late 1960s.
Enjoy the picts. :)
Your very welcome. I am having a wonderful time freeze framing Jim Hallum's videos on what was going on in Region 10 Pacific North West USA and posting the frames here. It takes hours of toggling the DVD to get just the right frame to cut, paste and post.
That Switzer Wing is lifting so nicely you can see under as it flys with only the props and skegs touching the water, the rest is up up and away. :)
I'm going to split these Region 10 posts out of the Region 3/4/5 thread
There were plenty of wings that raced in region 4. I think these picture were taken at Smith Mountain Lake, Va. around 1968 or 70. Note one picture has triple engined wing.
Ray, would the triple engine wing have raced with the 2 engine boats?
Tim
The triple engines was called X class and the twin engine was called T class. The twin engine could step up and raced in the X class.
Who ran the red and white wing...never seen that one before ??
The red and white is not one of Jan's wings. The red wing I have is the Schoonover/Massey wing. The one in question "looks" like the Kiston/Threlked red wing with a different white stripe painted on it.
I'm aware of the 414 history.
Dont know who had the red & white wing. Jan Schoonover and Kenny Kitson were very active and raced in region 4 often. Dont remember or never heard about many triple engines any thing back then. Can you imagine trying to keep 3 engines running together, the cost, but I am sure the weight to power ratio was not good. Some times the good old days werent that good.
Jan Schoonover set a 4 hour record (64.663) in the UU class with a Dutchman hull, Mercury on 8/24/69 at Huddleston, Va. Kenny Kitson set a new 1 hour speed record of 73.993 mph at Huddleston, Va with a Switzer/Mercury in the T class.
Any one got a picture of a Dutchman boat?? Is this a Dutchman with 2 - 135 Mercs.
Here is a side by side comparison on the of the Kitson/Threlkeld and Schoonover/Massey red wings. Notice the only difference between the two visually is the three breaks at the tip of the white stripe on Jan's. When Jan got the red wing on loan from Mercury he picked out the red one because it was the lightest of the bunch. When I talked to Ernie Threlkeld he told me the red one he had was turned back to Mercury....could the red one in question possibly be the same wing in another life ??? Talking to both Kenny and Ernie the red wing they had was heavy and never ran that well.
The history of Ernie, Jan and Kenny breaking each others records in wings back and forth is interesting.
Same wing in another life???? Mabey. Whats that boat part sitting on the ground in our pictures?
It's the rear cowl that goes over the motors. Just removed and sitting on the ground.