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  1. Wayne, I wonder if being air cooled (unless...

    Wayne, I wonder if being air cooled (unless modified), if the engine just built-up too much heat quickly. That engine was a good indication of the future for 250cc!
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    My dad was co-race director with Pop Augustine of...

    My dad was co-race director with Pop Augustine of the 1977 PRO Nationals. I recall answering the phone one night, shortly before the nationals. It was Tom and he wished to discuss some logistics...
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    Sticky: Forgot if I answered, but this(E-9) Don Woods...

    Forgot if I answered, but this(E-9) Don Woods from West Virginia in either a 500 or 700.
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    Sticky: 250cc Hydro

    Malcolm, E-18, won by on time by the slimmest of margins over Gary Pugh (if my memory is correct less than 1 second over 3 heats elapsed time). Look at Chic LaRose's N-33 powerhead. I believe that...
  5. Thread: Hinton 77

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    Pop Augustine and my dad, Bill Weaver, were the...

    Pop Augustine and my dad, Bill Weaver, were the race directors. Charlotte Queen was the referee. The race course was huge and this led to many accidents. I believe that the Oak Ridge Boys...
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    Yes. Had not seen clyde in so many, many years. ...

    Yes. Had not seen clyde in so many, many years. Where the hell is Normangee?
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    Wayne, I will be in the area for quite some time....

    Wayne, I will be in the area for quite some time. We will get together! I love to see different parts of the country, so would be pleased to drive a and meet you.
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    Did the club have races in the Austin area?

    Did the club have races in the Austin area?
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    Perhaps the lack of information as to aluminum...

    Perhaps the lack of information as to aluminum hydroplanes (and relevant plans) is an indicator that one should consider a different direction. I would suggest wood and/or a wood composite mix. ...
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    Sticky: I bought a VA around 1992. It was probably the...

    I bought a VA around 1992. It was probably the last 4-cylinder 250 Konig sold new in the USA. We ran a ton of heats on it, but it was realistically outclassed by newer models at that time. I...
  11. Wayne, you appear to be running a 2 pipe FA...

    Wayne,

    you appear to be running a 2 pipe FA Konig. It's pipes probably slid 2-3 inches or you may have just ran them up all the time. Sure looks like a Looper beside you. Could the inside boat...
  12. Great Stuff

    Wayne,

    You time your story "breaks" very well. I love the memories that you generously share and it is great to witness the continuity in our sport.

    OF course, I am intrigued by the photo's...
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    Simply said, generally yes. They can pack a ton...

    Simply said, generally yes. They can pack a ton of air under the bottom, thus they float over rough water that a typical US PRO boat would struggle with. Somewhere on this site, Ralph Donald posted...
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    I know I am hard of hearing and have selective...

    I know I am hard of hearing and have selective hearing as well. I have not heard criticism of anyone's boats with the excpetion of the boat that came apart at the Worlds this October. Marc's boats...
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    250 Kilo Record

    I recall that a Konig FA held the record for a very long time around 97 mph. In the early 1990's, Sean McKean bumped the APBA record to 107 mph with a Yamato.

    My guess is that this speed could...
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    Sticky: Fa69

    We still have a complete powerhead. Somewhere on site are photo's of this engine.
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    Sticky: Bill, you look just like

    ....Dennis Hopper in those photo's or perhaps Dennis Hopper looks just like Bill Van!!

    Wayne, you can always attend another day in the fields, the number of World Championships are limited!
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    Sticky: Short Pull

    The pipes on the FA in the photo slide maybe and inch of two. This made a difference on the top end. Often the pipes got stuck in the forward position. On one occaision, I reached back, grabbed...
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    Sticky: Finally, Photo's of 1969 FA

    Here you go Wayne.
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    1969 FA Konig

    Here are some photo's of my dad's FA 250 circa 1969. All original with the exception of 1 replacement pipe. I am not sure about the lower unit. It is a Konig, but I did check it carefully.
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    Sticky: UH Stamp

    UH are the initials of the individual that assembled the engine at Konig. I believe that the U stands for Uhlie (SP?). UH is found on hundreds of Konigs.
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    Sticky: As I recall

    Ralph Donald and Ed Thirlby, Sr. went to Berlin shortly after the factory shutdown. They were hoping to purchase castings, tools, etc. but were not successful. I am afraid much of equipment went...
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    Sticky: Original FA's

    We still have one of these. I want to say that dad bought it in 1969, his first manufactured alky engine. I am not sure that we still have the pipes (that were also used on the FM Konig engine). ...
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    Hot Springs, Arkansas

    Where was the race course in Hot Springs that hosted the North/South races?
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    Sticky: Splish Splash I was Taking a Bath

    Brandon Thirlby beats me to the last open spot at the first turn in 250cc Hydro during the 2009 USTS race at Constantine, MI. We had twelve boats looking for space in the first turn where there are...
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    Well, one more....

    Mr. Voss is still at it and not too many years removed from a 500cc runabout National Championship.

    I ran 125cc Hydro at this race, the re-run of the Nationals from LaCrosse, WS.
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    Sticky: Don Woods

    I believe that is Don Wood's from West Virginia. He ran 500 and 700 if I recall correctly. Only saw him race a few times.
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    Sticky: Quincy Drivers

    Waldman was an all time great. But, the Quincy "team" of drivers included some real talents with the "Z" engines. The Kuglers had an outstanding Nationals at Lakeland (1982?). Jeff and Jack...
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    Sticky: Pipe Puller

    We had a Konig sliding throttle. I remember that the pipes hung-up quite often. Ran an identical pipe on our Konig "M".
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    Sticky: Konig FA with Sliding Pipes

    We still have my dad's first FA. It was built in 1969 and had the sliding pipes. These maybe moved 2-3 inches. The carbs were in either side (righ/left) of the engine. IN the attached photo, my...
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    Oh Yeah

    I have some Danny Photo's from Charlotte that I will have to find. He was the man, back in the day. OK, OK, Danny you are still the man!!;)
  32. Hey Bill

    [QUOTE=Bill Van Steenwyk;67801]
    The thing that spoiled that thought forever though, was I SAW WHAT THEY WERE SQUIRTING IN THE CAN RIGHT BEFORE SEALING THE LID ON. It was that awful "stuff" again,...
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    Sticky: Great Photo's as Always

    Wayne,

    I also enjoy looking back on "the good ole days". That is just a super shot of Mal Hardin in his 250 hydro. I recognize (I believe) #66 Jimmy Aderholt, V-12 Barry Anderson with a Quincy...
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    Boat Attitude

    I grew up marvelling at Malcom Hardin floating his 250 Butts.

    But, I am glad that I can run fast today without having to float so high at the nose. If you can see it, this Pugh comes off the...
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    Wayne Perhaps

    Elmer won the PRO VP position? I believe that he held this post for a couple years around this time until maybe 1982 or so.

    DW
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    FA Konig

    My dad still has his 1969 FA Konig. This was a two cylinder with sliding tuned exhaust. The carbs are located opposite of one another. This is the engine that in John Shubert's image. The earlier...
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    It's Alive, It's Alive

    Indeed, this engine has had a couple of shakedown passes on an 1100cc runabout. It ran well out of the box, although I believe that a couple of tweaks may be required still. I do not know if Steve...
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    A change in the Winds

    In my opinion, when this engine showed-up at the 1998 O-350 World Championships at Cypress Garden, it represented a inflection point in the advancement of PRO racing in the US. With the exception of...
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    Lakeland Photo

    Ron,

    Any idea of the date of this string of photo's?

    I guess PRO outboards have been experiencing spectacular blowover for over 40 years.
  40. Another Idea

    Not to complicate matters too much, but could you fit trim to the engine? This might allow a little greater flexibility in propeller selection.

    Of course it is easy to make such a suggestion from...
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    125cc Konig

    I had one of these, but with the original Konig crankcase. Used a battery and points for ignition. Ran water injection into the pipes to help pull bigger props and for acceleration out of the...
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    Like A Mod VP

    I never saw a Delta run, but have seen one example personally. It looks like a Mod VP from the OPC category back in the day. To my eye, it does look like a boat that I would consider a monohaul. ...
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    Delta Wing

    There was a PRO version in Atlanta for a long time. I believe that it ran very well before being classified as illegal. I am not sure where this boat resides today, but I suspect in either Atlanta...
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    Bill's Right

    I guess I never noticed Konigs configured like that. It makes sense to protect the carbs. Did moving the weight of the exhaust change a boat's handling?
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    Question about Photo

    Something I noticed that is unusual in the photograph, it that the exhaust is on the left side of the engine. IF this is a Konig 700, it is the only one that I have ever seen with the exhaust coming...
  46. Off the Shelf Engines

    Kool thing with PRO is that you buy an engine ready to race, like a VRP, or you can choose to build your own from the groun up. Very few "rules", mainly stroke and bore to get displacment, no...
  47. Ouch My Toes

    Consider laydown PRO's and in doing so, you may be considering a step up. Do not understimate the thrill and challenge of piloting a 90MPH+ 250cc hydroplane running at 13,000 RPM on Methanol. You...
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    Is the Angle?

    The H-1 boat looks tiny for a 700 compared to the F-5. Wayne, et. al how long were the 700's back in the day?

    I love those classic lines on the Yales and Butts.
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    Driver of D-14

    I guess I do not remember John Yale well (the boats yes). IN the photo that follows, the driver looks a lot like Jeff Hutchinson from Lakeland, FL.
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    Tachs

    I like to use a tach to determine if the engine is basically running "strong". From there, lap times in competition are paramount. Top-end speed does not do much when you are racing with a full...
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