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    The rich and the govt are one in the same. Every day that goes by theres going to be new beliefs by individuals based on this that and the other thing. The only thing I believe is that protected waters open waters and what have you theres going to be rediculous laws made up new ammendments to those in place because sociaty allows this to go on. Global warming being based on emissions of vehicles and aerosol, maybe its true but it looks to me that everyone who makes a stink is just looking to get their palm greased.
    Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.

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    The difference between the rich and the government is obvious,.
    The rich, create wealth, employ people, donate willingly to charitable causes. They find tax breaks to profit, after all, they are in business to make profit, otherwise why be in business?

    The government never created a job in its existance that was not completely supported by the tax dollars of the rich. The government never gave anyone anything that they did not first take from someone else. When the government says "Tax Cuts" for the wealthy, thats a misnomer. Tax cuts simply means someone gives LESS of the money THEY earned. When the government creates soon to fail entitlement programs like education for illegal aliens kids, they stole the funding for that from those who work to create wealth.
    50% of the people do not pay taxes, yet they enjoy all the candy coated unrealistic programs the government offers. Of those 50% who do not pay taxes, 48% have never created any jobs so other people can create their own wealth and EARN a living.The other 2% are the evil rich peole who some feel dont get taxed enough. They already pay 60% when you add federal, state and municipal taxes of what they earn, yet, 48% pay nothing...See whats out of balance here? No one owes you a damn thing you did not work for and earn. NO ONE....
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    The fact that the earth has temperature variations has been documented in so many ways it is impossible to keep up with them. Sure, the earth has warmed, the earth has cooled, the earth goes through cycles, usually associated with variations happening on the sun. Ocean currents warm, which causes variations in regional weather, just as when those same currents cool. Why those cycles are identified by some stupid Spanish names is beyond me. However, man's contribution to any global warming or cooling is so minimal it is almost impossible to measure. Al Gore has become rich beyond his wildest dreams by exploiting some sort of "doomsday" because of straight out lies. Lies the public has accepted as truth. Man's contribution to CO2 in the atmosphere is reported to be less than 1/4 of one percent. How grandiose of mankind to believe he has any control over temperature cycles that have been happening, with a certain amount of repetition, for eons. "Man Made Global Warming" (MMGW) is a total farce with ZERO scientific evidence. All of our lives, and the lives of our children's children will be affected by the bullfeathers laws the US is trying to push down our throats. Those that propagate Al Gore's lies should be held accountable for the destruction of the industrial base of America. Countries around the world are profiting by the demise of industrial opportunities here. People like George Soros are counting their money made by the industrial explosion in countries that are immune to any EPA regulations. Is this MMGW junk science just another spoke in the wheel of a "One World Order" that must bring America to it's knees in order to succeed?..... MMGW IS TOTAL BULLFEATHERS, anyone that believes in it really shouldn't attempt to chew gum and walk at the same time....
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    Default Al Gore Goes Nuts in Aspen Speech

    1. Al Gore Goes Nuts in Aspen Speech
    Global warming crusader Al Gore lost his cool and dropped several s-bombs in a recent speech accusing climate change skeptics of manipulating the media.
    Addressing the Aspen Institute in Colorado on Aug. 4, the former vice president declared that skeptics “pay pseudo-scientists to pretend to be scientists to put out the message: ‘This climate thing, it’s nonsense. Manmade CO2 doesn’t trap heat. It may be volcanoes.’ Bulls***! ‘It may be sunspots.’ Bulls***! ‘It’s not getting warmer.’ Bulls***!”
    The Hot Air Network’s Green Room website, which reported the outburst, observed: “It would almost be fascinating to listen to Gore lash out at those who harbor an opposing view if it weren’t so pathetic.”
    New York Post columnist Andrea Peyser was even harder on Gore: “Has the guru of global warming, the Bozo of ozone and pooh-bah of the probably-not-so-endangered polar bear, gone completely off his bleeping rocker?
    “I’m talking about Al Gore, the former vice president who, after losing the White House, reinvented himself as a minor deity — a Gulfstream-riding, energy-slurping champion of Planet Earth.”
    Peyser noted that Gore continued his “potty-mouthed tirade” with this comment: “It’s no longer acceptable in mixed company, meaning bipartisan company, to use the god**** word ‘climate.’”
    Marc Morano, a skeptic of manmade global warming, refuted Gore’s allegations on his Climate Depot website.
    One study he cited noted that a lack of volcanic dust in the atmosphere could be responsible for a rise in average global temperatures since the 1960s.
    Several other studies linked solar activity and the sunspot cycle with the earth’s temperatures.
    And Morano referred to a “peer-reviewed admission that ‘global surface temperatures did not rise between 1998 and 2008.’”
    Gore and other global warming crusaders assert that an increase in CO2 in the atmosphere due to a rise in emissions is responsible for a continuing rise in global temperatures.
    But Climate Depot maintains: “It is not simply the sun or CO2 when looking at global temperatures, it is the sun, volcanoes, tilt of the earth’s axis, water vapor, methane, clouds, ocean cycles, land use, etc. Climate change is governed by hundreds of factors, or variables, not just CO2.”
    Peyser pointed out that scientist Charles Monnett, who had claimed that melting polar ice caps had led to the death of polar bears, was being investigated for possible scientific misconduct by the federal agency that employs him.
    “The population of fuzzy friends has actually quintupled since 1950,” Peyser writes.
    “Couple that with NASA’s revelation that the earth is letting more heat escape the planet than alarmists previously thought, blowing a hole in warming hysteria. Toss it all together, and you’ve got one nutty Gore.”

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    Default Help Me Here....

    I read this in the newspaper:

    "Research found that the farther north the species live, the faster they move
    their home base.

    That makes sense becasue in general northern regions are warming more than those
    closer the equator, scientist say."

    So, global warming is happening in the north faster than at the equator???

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    Global warming happens in Needles every summer!

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    What we are seeing is anti-science. We are experiencing pseudo science that aims not to question or challenge, but to reinforce the validity of a body of opinion that is yet to make the jump from theory to fact. It is being done to fit a political agenda. It is a corruption of science and the latest example of why people should be sceptical of the claims made about climate change and its causes and effects.
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    The polyscientists are idiots Ron. When you have to live in an igloo, it's too cold to piss outside, and after a few of sizable portions of caribou, the dump begins to smell, even if it's frozen. Time to move.

    Down south you can go anywhere you want to. Just make sure there's not a rattler hiding behind the bush when you squat down.



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    Default Are We "WINNING"???

    1. Nobel Winner Quits U.S. Science Group Over Climate Stance
    Nobel Prize-winning physicist and erstwhile Obama supporter Ivar Giaever has resigned as a Fellow from the prestigious American Physical Society to protest the organization’s promotion of manmade global warming fears.
    Norwegian-born Dr. Giaever shared the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1973 for work at General Electric related to superconductors.
    In an email to APS Executive Officer Kate Kirby on Sept. 13, which was obtained by the Climate Depot website, Giaever said:
    “Thank you for your letter inquiring about my membership. I did not renew it because I cannot live with the [APS] statement below:
    “‘Emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are changing the atmosphere in ways that affect the Earth's climate.
    “‘The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now.’”
    Giaever goes on to say: "In the APS it is ok to discuss whether the mass of the proton changes over time and how a multi-universe behaves, but the evidence of global warming is incontrovertible? The claim (how can you measure the average temperature of the whole earth for a whole year?) is that the temperature has changed from ~288.0 to ~288.8 degrees Kelvin in about 150 years, which (if true) means to me is that the temperature has been amazingly stable, and both human health and happiness have definitely improved in this 'warming' period."
    Giaever was one of Barack Obama's key scientific supporters and joined more than 70 Nobel Science laureates in endorsing him in an October 2008 open letter.
    But in March 2009, Giaever was one of more than 100 co-signers of a letter to President Obama criticizing his stance on global warming. The letter stated in part: "We, the undersigned scientists, maintain that the case for alarm regarding climate change is grossly overstated."
    Giaever, now a professor emeritus at the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, is one of several prominent scientists to resign from the APS over its global warming position. Among them is physicist Hal Lewis, who wrote to the organization before his death this past May: "Global warming is the greatest and most successful pseudoscientific fraud I have seen in my long life."

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    Default Climate chaos or fact?

    As expected as time moves on more data comes in and reevauations of all the theories compared to facts are unavoidable. As a result common sence and facts prevail and realistic researchers change their opinion! The question still remains what portion of climate change (warmer or colder) is attributable to humans? This most likely will be resolved when cows fly. They still do not have a good way to model cloud cover which is a major contributer to global temperatures and that also will be resolved when the cows fly..

    When Galileo stated the sun was the center of our universe and the earth revolved around it he was considered a heritic and put under church arrest because it was not the populist belief and the people in power did not want their power challanged. It took awhile but time passed more study and facts prevailed. The church finally removed charges on Galileo in the 20th century, lot a good it did him? I think the text books finally were changed but probably not at the Flat Earth Society

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    I think one of the first budget cuts, and tax incentive removals should be for write offs that psuedo intellectual jack asses sporting PhD's secure to write studies often where the funding body of the study tells the person conducting the study the ideal result they wish to achieve,.....
    Get rid of tax breaks for this type of funding, and watch science become real....
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