Chowchilla, July, 2011

[russhill]

It seems like everyone wants this race to happen, but not badly enough to do anything, except Ron. He's chasing down money, alternative insurance and entries. So, drivers, tell us your intent to be there.

And COR, you going to have a race? How many boats

I haven't heard anything about officials, APBA sanction application, arrangements for patrol boats or general facilitation details. This race is not going to happen, it's going to be made to happen or allowed to die like the majority of all Regions 11 and 12 races this year.

[bill boyes]

Alternative Insurance??? What is a new one.
The Chowchilla event was allowed to die this year for the following reasons.
1.Lack of Clubs funds.
2.Lack of entries for for Salt Springs and Oroville
3.County cancelling the July 4th to a week later.
4. SST45 series pulling out or wanting tow money to attend.
5. lack of officials.
Now at this late date if EBBC had $3500 in its account today and I mean today it could happen. MAYBE. depends on permits with the county.
If you want to loan that amount with a payback of 80 cents on the dollar I am sure that EBBC would take another look.
Chow is a fun race GREAT pits and race water.
Some years the race was cancelled due to lack of water. It was dry most of the year.

[Ron Hill]

NBRA sanctions races and so does AOF.... Seems they are racing every week or so.

Region 11 and 12 don't have enough boats, I guess to put on a race.....
Chowchill expenses APBA

1. Water and restrooms $500
2. APBA sanction and insurance $3,000
3. Divers $500
4. Ambulance at $80 AN HOUR $1,200

Total $5,200

Chowchilla NBRA

Sanction and insurance $1,000

Cost $3,200........

But NBRA doesn't offer APBA points......

Personally, I feel like renting the lake and paying the NBRA insurance and have a test day....AS I'M sure no one in region 11 would LOAN their patrol boats or NOR CAL 400 boats to an NBRA CLUB....

[bill boyes]

Ron,Please does not make this an APBA vs NBRA issue.
Besides NBRA does not Sanction Inboards nor OPC which we have in Region 11.
NBRA does what they do and are good at it.
What Region 11 needs is boats at the races. Plenty of race boats in the Region just the owners cannot afford to come to the races.
Blame BUSH. OH wait must be the Great one that is causing the problem.

[Ron Hill]

I wasn't thinking OPC or Inboards. All the Cracker Boxes I've talked to are going to Black Lake that weekend...and the OPC said they were NOT coming...

So, to run an NBRA you could save another $500 by not having divers..


So, to run a race with NBRA the costs would be:

$500 water
$1,000 insurance
Ambulance $800

$2,300

20 boats at $100 EACH FOR THE WEEKEND WOULD ALMOST COVER IT...

[bill boyes]

I then what do we do with the Sport C people? that is our Regions biggest class. The 36 class of Region 11.

[Ron Hill]

Or run AOF where they run everything....Or cut a deal with K and K for five or more event for $5,000 annually, and run all races under Nor Cal rules....

Why is APBA's insurance $2,300 when the same policy can be had for half or less???

You need to have five event to be a sanctioning body as K and K defines it. They charge $5,000 for the first five events......as I understand it, they don't charge more for 6-7-8 events....

Probably too late for this year, but there is always next year.....

[bill boyes]

Ron K&K is more than that for a OPC class on the event. $2681.00
No OPC or Inboard the K&K insurance fee is $2073

[PaleRider]

We put together a 45 this past winter to have some fun in racing it. Fat chance! It appears all the races will be cancelled this season. Good grief, even though race car counts are down, they still have races. Lucky for me, I still have our Sprint car to race this year to satisfy my adrenalin "fix"!!!!

[bill boyes]

don't recall seeing your on-line entry for Salt Springs nor Oroville. Both events were cancelled for lack of entries.