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    Default Back from the boat graveyard

    Hi folks:
    I´m rebuilding a laser boat (copy made in Mexico), `cause I`m going racing again..!
    so, if anyone can help with ideas, tips and mods to the pad..or the entire hull
    I`ll be happy to hear any.

    here some pics..

    The boat was recovered from the graveyard, will start rebuilding next days

    Engine is a 2.5 liter 200 H.P. Merc, carburated, 15:28 gears, Ron`s 28 pitch prop arriving in a few days..

    wonder of set back size..and weigth of bare hull (before rigging)
    got everything, trim pump, gas pump, hot foot, 37 gal gas tank, tach

    I have access to another laser carcass, for the deck..

    What do you think..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vrunner79 View Post
    Hi folks:
    I´m rebuilding a laser boat (copy made in Mexico), `cause I`m going racing again..!
    so, if anyone can help with ideas, tips and mods to the pad..or the entire hull
    I`ll be happy to hear any.

    here some pics..

    The boat was recovered from the graveyard, will start rebuilding next days

    Engine is a 2.5 liter 200 H.P. Merc, carburated, 15:28 gears, Ron`s 28 pitch prop arriving in a few days..

    wonder of set back size..and weigth of bare hull (before rigging)
    got everything, trim pump, gas pump, hot foot, 37 gal gas tank, tach

    I have access to another laser carcass, for the deck..

    What do you think..?
    Seems to make a good garbage container. Lots of luck!

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    Default Not Structurally Sound

    Hello vrunner79,

    I would not trust an old hull like that, especially with a 200HP motor on it.

    Age, UV degradation, etc. to the fibers and resin .... the hull is not structurally sound.

    You would be better off taking "Splashes" from the hull and deck for molds to lay up new
    fiberglass and resin.

    Good Luck.
    Dean Hobart

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    Default Yes you can

    Au contraire, noones worn out a fiberglass boat yet!

    http://forums.bateau2.com/viewforum.php?f=10

    Go here for help and see other folks bring glass boats back from the dead, as well as refurbish older hulls with rotted wood interior structure.
    The trick here is to use epoxy resin for rebuilds, polyester won't stick well to itself. You can make tht hull structurally better than Summerford ever did.

    I personally rebuilt a 1958 ( 54 year old) boat and run it on the river here at 45mph with vintage 60HP Merc.

    Did a similar refurb, 1992, on an old 60's MFG 20 footer in Hawaii, ran it in the open ocean, it never missed a beat.

    Here's a similar example from "boatbuilder"

    http://forums.bateau2.com/viewtopic....88e9e2dc061160
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    Thumbs up Thanks..

    Thanks for the bump, the problem is that We can´t have Epoxy so easy down here, Import cost is High, but we are doing our best with wood, and fiber & resin work, your boat looks Fantastic..!
    I will upload some pictures as rebuild process update..
    We have to do "miracles" because of lack of material and funds (enough) to do the job "the gringo way" lots of $$ and a good supply of material..
    anyway I´m grateful of all the good buddies from BRF advices...




    Quote Originally Posted by MTECHMARINE View Post
    Au contraire, noones worn out a fiberglass boat yet!

    http://forums.bateau2.com/viewforum.php?f=10

    Go here for help and see other folks bring glass boats back from the dead, as well as refurbish older hulls with rotted wood interior structure.
    The trick here is to use epoxy resin for rebuilds, polyester won't stick well to itself. You can make tht hull structurally better than Summerford ever did.

    I personally rebuilt a 1958 ( 54 year old) boat and run it on the river here at 45mph with vintage 60HP Merc.

    Did a similar refurb, 1992, on an old 60's MFG 20 footer in Hawaii, ran it in the open ocean, it never missed a beat.

    Here's a similar example from "boatbuilder"

    http://forums.bateau2.com/viewtopic....88e9e2dc061160

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    You do not need Epoxy. Poly will bond to itself just fine, if you want you can use an etching style Vinyl for the first layer. (Poly doesn't stick to Epoxy) The etching vinyl will actually have the best bond as it's the closest you can get to a chemical bond, otherwise no matter what you use it's truly only a mechanical bond so how you do your prep work is more important than the product used.

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    Default Prep Work..

    Quote Originally Posted by 7500Blizzard View Post
    You do not need Epoxy. Poly will bond to itself just fine, if you want you can use an etching style Vinyl for the first layer. (Poly doesn't stick to Epoxy) The etching vinyl will actually have the best bond as it's the closest you can get to a chemical bond, otherwise no matter what you use it's truly only a mechanical bond so how you do your prep work is more important than the product used.
    Yes We did our best with the preparation, and carefully we applied all the layers, with the exact amount of everything...
    wood Structure was cutted and fixed until perfect fit..
    Now, We are fixing driver and copilot seat..no time to upload pictures...
    Race is this WEEKEND..!!!
    My low water nose cone, is in transit, yet, but tomorrow is arriving
    Thanks to Bob´s Machine staff, good work..!

    Best Regards

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    Default Any Up Date?

    I'm thinking of getting Foster's and mine 380 Laser Ray back on the water. I was wondering how you are doing with is project!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Hill View Post
    I'm thinking of getting Foster's and mine 380 Laser Ray back on the water. I was wondering how you are doing with is project!
    The boat is ready and was tested first with a 175 Block, 6,300 rpm, with the prop you sold me, the boat raises the bow a lot, We put a new hub on a 28" pitch merc cleaver, got a 200 block, change from one block all the internal, and is turning 7k plus, with the cleaver, easy on trim and 82 mph, the boat is "resting" by now, it is rain season and the the river is awful, to many logs and debris, the block is not modified, just a little shave to the heads 135 psi, and that´s it, using pump gas 92 oct, good oil, and plenty of jets..
    Will have to wait until next year, for the races

    Hands on the job, and get those boats you say racing again..!!

    The motor is bolted to the transom, We are planning to get a 4 or 5 inches setback..but no $ by now for it

    I hope you are having a great time, and give all your grandchildren lots of hug and kisses..I´m havin my second one (a girl) (anothe one) middle december and simply cant wait...!
    Best Regards

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