over prop exhaust v thru prop exhaust on 60hp evinrude

[Smokin' Joe]

Good suggestion, the VP class boats in Minn. ru the raker. But find
out what pitch they run and drop down, their boats are faster even if
the gearcases are relatively submerged. Check with 'Chairman', Bob Dillon,
and he can put you in contact with a VP driver.

[phillnjack]

when you say RAKER props do you mean the brand Raker or a prop with a high rake ?

i have seen the brand RAKER , and these are very expensive in the uk, and we do not get the
option of try before you buy.
Ive been to hundreds of different boat shops over the years and only come across one place that did that.
sadly he died a few years back and the shop has now been closed.

how high before a different water pick up is needed on a outboard.?


phill.

[Smokin' Joe]

I think it's OMC or BRP. Buy in the US and ship.

[phillnjack]

so what sort of diameter would be ok for my 60hp ?
i ask as you guys know more about props than i do.

and would the michigan 12 x 23 be no good for me ? and out of curiosity why not ?
i realy dont know much about either of these props or would not ask.


phill...

[Smokin' Joe]

Probably 12 1/2"-13". We ran 13" on a 140 clubfoot on an Evinrude 140/16' Allison ca. 1980.

[phillnjack]

what sort of speed did you get with the 140 on the allison ?
and what does an allison weigh roughly ?
I ask this as my friend has a johnson 140 cross flow on a 17ft picton deep v with a pad and needs to
get a decent prop to make it go quick.

phill

[Smokin' Joe]

what sort of speed did you get with the 140 on the allison ?
and what does an allison weigh roughly ?
I ask this as my friend has a johnson 140 cross flow on a 17ft picton deep v with a pad and needs to
get a decent prop to make it go quick.

phill

The 16' raceboat may have weighed 300 or less, would need to look at the old
brochure in my office. We ran a 13x25, transom height about 26 3/4, ran 73 mph
set up for closed course racing. Acceleration was better than the Merc 150 J block
but they had about 5 mph on me so I had to drive looking backward to fend them off.
Don Gautier once told me I made the 140 look good (once ran 2/2 for a 3rd), but his statement was better
than the truth.

[Ron Hill]

In Minnesota there is a three cylinder, 49 inch class, that requires the BIG GEARCASE, no power trim and the prop shaft 5" below the bottom. They run 53-54 MPH (Stock motors)...must be thru hub prop too.

Smomkin Joe you ever run against Joe Burgess???? He told me he was drivng his JP and was catching an EP at the finish and he went wide to miss the EP and the EP went wide to let Joe by....Joe was watching the checked flag and the EP....and got too close to the shore and hit a submerged sea wall (Kilo Watt Marine Stadium in Memphis , TN). Joe sure wrecked a good 14 X 28 thru hub cleaver, and took a nasty spill... Joe Burgess could drive an Allison for sure!

Rakes don't come out of the hole that well, do they???

[Per]

when you say RAKER props do you mean the brand Raker or a prop with a high rake ?

i have seen the brand RAKER , and these are very expensive in the uk, and we do not get the
option of try before you buy.
Ive been to hundreds of different boat shops over the years and only come across one place that did that.
sadly he died a few years back and the shop has now been closed.

how high before a different water pick up is needed on a outboard.?


phill.

I was thinking about the brand.

Yes, try before you buy might not be an option when buying from a shop, I was thinking of second hand one. (Can't afford the new ones either)

Jacking the engine:
I'd say once you run out of holes in the bracket you should get a water pressure gauge, cheap insurance and chances are you will get caught by the speed bug and want to jack it even higher

[Smokin' Joe]

I was thinking about the brand.

Yes, try before you buy might not be an option when buying from a shop, I was thinking of second hand one. (Can't afford the new ones either)

Jacking the engine:
I'd say once you run out of holes in the bracket you should get a water pressure gauge, cheap insurance and chances are you will get caught by the speed bug and want to jack it even higher

Joe was one of the most fair drivers I ran against, along with SueAnne Callahan. Both would keep their lanes
even if squeezed from the outside. Paul told me that Joe used to walk around in the pits around Gallatin as a small
boy, he knew him then. He drove for Chuck Rutherford, whose stable of orange Allisons is still in a barn
outside Knoxville. Wasn't me at the marine stadium. I used to step my E boat up to GP and outrun Joe in
Chuck's 15' Allison/Merc 850 at the nationals. See photo below, Joe's on the inside. We ran like that lap after lap til i got by then
Danny Critchfield won because both Joe and I had jumped the gun. We ran off and left Danny.

You can jack a 75 up nearly to split propshaft and still pump water on a v-bottom.

Photo of Joe's EP rig at Eufaula, 1977.