2 cycle oils

[TreyStJohn]

We use Maxima 927 in all our pre-mix (can't be used in injector systems) engines (outboard, PWC, Motocross). We have chosen this oil for several reasons 1) Wear has always been less than any same ratio synthetics or petroleums at tear down. 2) Flash temp is 480 compared to 240-290 with synthetics, meaning the oil will not begin to burn until 480 degrees 3) Has very good anti-corrosion additives for marine use as other castor based oils don't seem to be good in this area. 4) Is biodegradeable, yes tree huggers will thank you 5) Smells ooh so much better than anything else.

Last year in the 1liter modified inboard hydro class running a Yamaha GPR1200based engine turning 7500-8,200 rpm's, we ran 24:1 927 mix w/C16 all year with no teardowns. At the end of the season, we tore the engine down and the crankshaft had virtually no wear. We cleaned it up and put it back together with new pistons and sold the motor to our competition who shelved it so no one else would run it...he did win national high points this year.

For more info www.maximausa.com

Just my 2 cents

Trey

[Mark75H]

The flash point for Klotz's synthetic is 460º

[h2ojunkie]

any one have any input on powermist fuels and oils ?

[David Weaver]

This is great stuff!! 3 years of racing on my VRP 250 (Hydro) and not one stuck piston. It is easy to clean, because the castor has been de-gummed.

[smittythewelder]

Joe, what's this about engines running synthetic oils not needing storage-seal treatment for the winter. I have been fogging all my fishing motors, chainsaws, weedeaters, and anything else that is stored in an unheated shed. But I've never used synthetics. Maybe you can teach an old dog a new trick. Is there a website with more info on this?

[Seanp3]

Joe, what's this about engines running synthetic oils not needing storage-seal treatment for the winter. I have been fogging all my fishing motors, chainsaws, weedeaters, and anything else that is stored in an unheated shed. But I've never used synthetics. Maybe you can teach an old dog a new trick. Is there a website with more info on this?

Some info I've gotten from the websites indicate if they're good for storage. Klotz R-50 and some others that I've read indicate they are

http://klotzlube.com/tech/KL-102.pdf

[Seanp3]

Anyone in or around the Seattle area know of any Klotz dealers? Central Washington would even be closer for me. I'd like to avoid the shipping if I could

[Seanp3]

The flash point for Klotz's synthetic is 460º

Sam, sounds like you use Klotz. On their site they recommend 20:1 to 32:1 for 2 stoke gas mix. Most guys I've talked to say they use 24:1. I'll be using it with a Yamato 80. What would you recommend?

[Joe Silvestri 36-S]

Smitty,
The container of Klotz oil says right on it, that you do not need to use fogging oils if using the product. Remember, synthetics have adhesion properties, which means the oil sticks to the parts, which is why you do not need fogging oils. If you are using conventional oils, you would want to use fogging oils before putting your motors away for the winter. Conventional oils do not stick to the parts of the engine.

Sean,
I order my Klotz right from the manufactorer as there is no dealer close to me. I usually order two gallons at a time to make the shipping worth while. This will last me two or more seasons, depending on how many classes I race that season.

[mercguy]

Smitty,
The container of Klotz oil says right on it, that you do not need to use fogging oils if using the product. Remember, synthetics have adhesion properties, which means the oil sticks to the parts, which is why you do not need fogging oils. If you are using conventional oils, you would want to use fogging oils before putting your motors away for the winter. Conventional oils do not stick to the parts of the engine.

Sean,
I order my Klotz right from the manufactorer as there is no dealer close to me. I usually order two gallons at a time to make the shipping worth while. This will last me two or more seasons, depending on how many classes I race that season.

2gal's will last you 2 seasons???? Joe, you need to race more!!!!!!

2gal's will only last me about 5-6 races!!!! Let's see, I go through about 10gal's of gas per race weekend.......man, I gotta cut back!