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    This is what happens when you have a country where only the ruling elite and their military, along with the roving gangsters beneath them, are the only ones allowed to have guns. Don't say it couldn't happen here.


    All Food Is GONE! Violence Erupts On Caribbean Island Of St. Martin
    Mac Slavo
    September 11th, 2017

    Hurricane Irma ravaged the Caribbean islands last week and wiped entire islands off the map. Now that the food and water have been scavenged from every grocery store on St. Martin, people are resorting to violence.

    The people obviously started with the grocery stores, scavenging what they needed for sustenance; water, crackers, and fruit. But according to the New York Times, by nightfall on Thursday, what had been a search for food took a more menacing turn, as groups of people (some of whom were armed), swooped in and violently took anything of value that was left. Things like electronics, appliances, and vehicles were all stolen.

    The social fabric has begun to fray now that people are without the most basic of essentials: food and water. “All the food is gone now,” Jacques Charbonnier, a 63-year-old resident of St. Martin, said in an interview on Sunday. “People are fighting in the streets for what is left.” Residents of St. Martin, and elsewhere in the region, spoke about a general disintegration of law and order as survivors struggled in the face of severe food and water shortages, and the absence of electricity and phone service.

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    As Hurricane Irma raged, thieves sledgehammered way into Little River businesses
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    It looked as if Hurricane Irma’s powerful winds had swirled through the 14 businesses that occupy the Junction Lofts building in Miami’s Little River district. File cabinets were overturned. Pictures were ripped off walls. Papers were strewn about.

    Except it wasn’t Irma’s howling winds that tore through the building Sunday night as the storm made its way through South Florida: It was thieves armed with a sledgehammer powerful enough to tear through metal doors that were supposed to keep the building safe from hurricane-force winds.


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    When You need an AR-15 !


    What happens when the Government finally cuts off the welfare and electric from the animals or Terrorist to be ,
    and six or so of them in a gang show up at your front door looking for food and things they can pawn.
    So you hear glass breaking, and when you look out, you see they are armed with guns.
    Here are your options:


    1. A Bible, good luck with that.


    2. A six shooter, maybe you will get one or two.


    3. A shot gun, maybe you will get one or two.


    4. A glock that can jam, then you'll get none.


    5. Call the Cops, takes way to long , say good bye to life.


    6. An A-R 15 with a nice big 15 clip and another spare one. Congratulations, you took out all of them before they could kill you.

    Ultimately The gun debate in this Country is real simple, who in this country is protected by guns and who isn't ? And those who are protected by guns the
    fastest !

    The thugs will always be able to steal guns and commit crimes
    or import them like they now buy illegal drugs almost everywhere brought in to our country by the
    rich good old white boys clan that own the planes trucks, and ships that bring
    the trash into our country and the banks that laundry the money.

    The United States is 3rd in Murders throughout the World. But if you take
    out just 4 cities: Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC and New Orleans, the
    United States is 4th from the bottom, in the entire world, for Murders.

    These 4 Cities also have the toughest Gun Control Laws in the U.S. ALL 4 of
    these cities are controlled by Democrats. It would be absurd to draw any
    conclusions from this data - right?

    How many people died of crimes in the US last year because they did not have a Gun to defend themselves ?

    You delusional "Libs" bitch on here all the time about what the cops do to the little people with Guns.
    The cops work for the Government, so make up your mind -- are guns only bad when the Government
    and the Illegal Gangsters have them, or not ? How are peace loving, tax paying citizens supposed to defend themselves in a crazy (and getting crazier) world (thanks Hollywood) where it takes up to 30 minutes for a law enforcement officer to respond to a call from a citizen that is being threatened by a violent person with a gun or a knife or other means of lethal weaponry, and they are starting to kick in the door of your car or your house.

    How many gun death crimes have Illegal Mexicans committed last year in the U.S.

    It's a slippery slope. We know now politicians can't be bought and send us into illegal wars, so therefore it's safe to assume we could never have a tyrant as president that would use executive orders to redefine what's constituted as a mentally challenged individual that shouldn't be allowed to purchase a gun.

    When only Gangsters have guns !

    Many people believe That is what the ruling Elite people that control Hobama and Hellary want !

    They want the gangs to do the dirty work of the ruling Elite so the ruling Elite doesn't ever have to bother with the little people

    With that system where only the street gangs below the ruling Elite have the guns at the bottom of society then the little people keep their mouth shut and pay off the gangs and don't dare cause the ruling Elite at the top any problems or else .
    Look how well that system works today for the top ruling elite in third world Countries!

    Billarybama wants the little peoples guns in America
    but she sells
    far more powerful guns to 20 foreign nations that give her kick backs
    nations that America taxpayers will have to send their children off to
    fight and pay for at a later date !
    Pure Evil !


    Compare Ten Big Killers in the United States

    Deaths per year from selected causes, information sources: Centers for Disease Control, FBI and US Federal Government. This information was posted on a chart at the web site www.WhatReallyHappened.com a few weeks ago.

    1) Tobacco Use 529,000

    2) Medical Errors 195,000

    3) Unintentional Injuries 118,021

    4) Alcohol Abuse 107,400

    5) Motor Vehicle Accidents 34,485

    6) Unintentional Poisonings 31,758

    7) Drug Abuse 25,500

    8) Unintentional Falls 24,792

    9) Non-Firearm Homicides 16,799

    10) Firearm Homicides 11,493

    Gun registration
    It still is the start of a gun pick up list for Americans


    That thugs and criminals will never go by !


    Just like drugs can be made illegal to stop drug users
    never did work !

    If the Gun grabbers don't want the insane to have guns they should not have let the Damacraps and Republicons in congress vote to give the most powerful guns in the world to the psychopathic W Bush to iillegally invade Iraq and kill millions of innocent people

    What protects the thugs in Congress on both sides of the aisle and Hobama and Hellary, firecrackers?

    And last but not least what do you drugged up Liberals in California think settled your state to become a civil society , why Guns of course you delusional circus barkers !
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    it is when law and order breaks down you need to be armed to the teeth.
    we in the uk are doomed if anything like this happens, if we got every soldier of the uk and all the police in the uk on the streets it would be nothing.
    our total army and police would maybe just about cope with a average city, it could never cope with London, or manchest er or Birmingham as they would be so out numbered.
    The only people in the uk with guns are the hooligans and the police.
    if anything at all breaks out we are totally ****ed.
    we have had a few small riots and the police were useless, remember not all out police even carry a gun, its a very small minority of armed police in the uk.

    The only ones who should NOT have the guns are the thugs, but like everywhere if someone wants a gun they can buy it black market and then go robbing people.

    In the uk it was not until 1968 that any gun laws came into force, since then we have had so many stupid laws come in.

    this is what you can have if you manage to get through all the red tape.
    1 shotgun that can only carry three rounds maximum.............................. THATS IT... and you have to have a gun safe and have no criminal record at all, not even silly stuff.

    you cannot OWN a hand gun of any sort, NOT EVEN AT A GUN CLUB........
    as for rifles then its simple......................NONE AT ALL...

    Air guns........MAXIMUM POWER 12FT POUNDS without a special firearms license for rifles.... So basically impossible to get one.##

    Those who have licences for rifles to shoot vermin are allowed a a massive calibre of .22, yes ,22 only.

    As for gun crimes....we have more shooting now since the gun laws came in to effect, nearly every gang has members who carry guns, we have mass imingration of eastern
    Europeans who came with guns and mass immigration of the so called syrian refugees, ( all between 15 and 30 and all carry guns and knives....

    All people in usa need to fight real strong to keep their guns, those who say no guns are foots who dont live in the real world.
    They would be the first people to cry when gangs are outside their home shooting people in the streets and ribbing them.

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    There is no debate here in my opinion !

    Regards,

    Paul

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    The dummasses are like the frogs in the pot of water not realizing the heat is slowly rising until it is too late, the ones that live control the heat. Th. Jefferson had it right about the 2nd being needed.
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    While I don't have a problem with people owning guns for hunting and protection, we in this country have taken it to extremes! There is no reason why the average citizen needs, for a lack of knowledge and a better term, military type weapons. And, for all of you who talk about killing others to save yourself, its just not that easy. Trained professionals have a tough time with this task both physically and mentally so why would the average citizen not have a problem with this. This isn't the wild west! Having reasonable gun laws that allow people to protect themselves and hunt while trying to keep really dangerous weapons off the streets is not a bad thing! The world isn't perfect but we have to start somewhere. Doing nothing isn't helping anyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Silvestri 36-S View Post
    While I don't have a problem with people owning guns for hunting and protection, we in this country have taken it to extremes! There is no reason why the average citizen needs, for a lack of knowledge and a better term, military type weapons. And, for all of you who talk about killing others to save yourself, its just not that easy. Trained professionals have a tough time with this task both physically and mentally so why would the average citizen not have a problem with this. This isn't the wild west! Having reasonable gun laws that allow people to protect themselves and hunt while trying to keep really dangerous weapons off the streets is not a bad thing! The world isn't perfect but we have to start somewhere. Doing nothing isn't helping anyone!
    Laws only work if they are executed, and there have been a lot of non executed laws.

    Would be great if we were a peaceful species but not so. Guns will always be around and with 3d printing you can make them and the loons, criminals, etc that do not follow laws will always get them and guns will still be in the hands of the wrong bad people. Well in my case I have no training with such powerful weapons but if confronted with a bunch of bad people wanting to kill me I sure would like something that will be effective rather than curse words, rocks, running or cowering in a corner.

    There is no doubt that sane feeling people abhor what happened in Las Vegas by that deranged shooter, but how could he have been found out before the shooting? Same in Orlando?

    I am in favor of better background checks and other things if they could be properly executed and would actually reduce the shootings and still not infringe the 2nd. But would they really effect private sales and the black market stuff that goes on? It would be like trying to ban cars, would have to ban roads to get that to work, then there would be more ATV's with 20mm mounts, ha!.

    What effective ideas do you have to help the problem and still preserve the 2nd because that is where the debate hinges unless the 2nd is repealed, no doubt a Mighty Task "at present" and I hope not in the future? We started as a Republic and it is getting harder to keep it that way, we have to be careful the political winds are always changing when power gets too concentrated and away from the People, not good.

    The discussion is endless...........................
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    So I have never owned a gun, never been arrested, etc etc
    then I buy a few hand guns,100 rifles and 100,000 rounds and there is no computer that adds that up? Doh maybe something is up?

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    I agree, the discussion is endless. Like I said above, sensible laws that can be enforced! We'll always have the outlaws that do not adhere to the rules and laws but then that is why we have law enforcement. That too is not perfect but what is. Again doing nothing is not working either. I just don't believe the average citizen is cable of dealing with the repercussions of killing someone. Easy to talk a big game, not that you specifically are, but some do. Talk to trained military personal who have been in battle and have killed. They have nightmares the rest of their lives, they are never the same. I was a sailer, while never was in hand to hand combat, did see people killed on the flight deck and that in itself is still in my mind several days a week, every week and that happened 20+ years ago. Again, I'm not against a weapon for protection and hunting but the rest is extreme to me.
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    http://www.blacklistednews.com/Anoth...38/38/Y/M.html
    ANOTHER MASS SHOOTING, ANOTHER GRAB FOR GUNS: 6 GUN FACTSPublished: October 2, 2017
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    SOURCE: TONY CARTALUCCI

    Nothing is more deplorable than hijacking human tragedy to push an unrelated political agenda. A mass murderer taking the lives of some 60 people in Las Vegas this week has nothing to do with the majority of lawful firearms owners in the United States who aren't and have no intention of ever killing another human being.


    Yet the knee-jerk reaction of many emotionally-driven people in the face of an overwhelming tragedy is to shift public debate back to gun control and even banning guns altogether.

    Emotional and irrational responses in the face of overwhelming circumstances is part of human nature and require patience.

    Yet another part of being human is then appealing to our ability to reason. To reason we must have facts.

    Upon examining the following 6 facts, we will see that access to firearms has no significant relationship to violence - and that violence is driven by another entire set of factors that must be addressed if we honestly want a more peaceful and prosperous world.

    1. According to the FBI, more people die of barehanded assaults in the US per year than all rifle violence ("assault rifles" included) combined. In fact, homicide via personal weapons like hands and feet is more than double homicides carried out with rifles.



    Most gun homicides are carried out by handguns in some of America's most destitute communities where national and local governments have failed to keep up with infrastructure, providing education, or economic opportunities. Cities like Detroit who have had their industry shipped overseas and their infrastructure left to - in some cases literally - rot.

    2. According to the Small Arms Survey conducted by the Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies in Geneva, Switzerland, the United States has the most guns per capita of any other nation on Earth at 112 guns per 100 people. Second place goes to Serbia at 58.21 guns per 100 people.

    Based on this and assumptions that access to firearms equates directly to more violence, we would expect to find the United States and Serbia at the top of list regarding both homicides, and gun related homicides, yet this is not the case at all.

    3. Highest homicide rate on Earth goes to El Salvador with 108.64 murders per 100,000 people. The United States comes in at number 94 with a murder rate of 4.88 per 100,000 people.

    4. El Salvador's gun homicides are at around 26.49 per 100,000 people while the US comes in with 3.60 gun homicides per 100,000 people. Honduras comes in first place with 66.64 gun homicides per 100,000 people.

    Nations topping the list of gun homicides together with total homicides reveal little relationship between the number of guns per capita and actual violence. In fact, despite the immense amount of firearms in the United States, the United States has a relatively low homicide and gun-related homicide rate. This is why gun ban advocates often attempt to cite "gun related deaths" which includes accidents and suicide instead of citing gun-related homicides - even when advocating gun bans after high profile mass shootings and murders.

    5. Gun ban advocates often claim the United States cannot be compared with "failed states" and instead should be compared with "advanced states" like Denmark, Sweden, etc. This is called "cherry picking" and is a logical fallacy, not rational or honest debate.

    Neither El Salvador nor Honduras are "failed states" according to the Fragile States Index.

    And neither Denmark nor Sweden have a "Detroit" like the US does. During a debate, all data must be considered, not conveniently and conditionally picked through so the numbers add up in one's favor.

    6. Despite the UK and Japan both being "gun free" - according the the United Nations (summarized on Wikipedia here) - the UK has a higher total number of murders (594) than Japan (395) despite having half of Japan's population (UK: 65.64 million, Japan: 127 million).

    For those tempted to claim that the UK isn't actually gun free, realize that - according to USA Today - only about 50-60 murders a year in the UK are attributed to firearms, and if negated, still leaves the UK with higher total murders, and a still much higher murder rate than Japan.

    Concluding Thoughts
    All 6 facts tell us that violence is driven by socioeconomic factors, not access to firearms. If firearms drove violence, the United States would be by far the most violent nation on Earth, followed by Serbia - they are not. The UK and Japan would have roughly the same rate of homicides - they do not.



    If you truly care about a more peaceful world, address the root causes of violence - which is clearly, obviously not access to weapons. Those who intentionally stir hysteria and prey on the emotions of well-meaning people to push issues like gun control have ulterior motives - and coincidentally allow all of the actual factors that drive violence - socioeconomic disparity and destitution - to continue or even expand.

    If you are truly against violence, you must truly commit yourself to understand what really causes it, and not indulge in emotional campaigns pursuing irrational measures that not only will not stop violence, but will invite great amounts of the very exploitation and injustice that drives violence.

    Banning guns did not stop terrorists in Europe from obtaining completely illegal AK-47s used in Paris, France killing over 130 people, nor did banning guns stop a terrorist from using a truck in Nice, France to take the lives of over 80 people. Gun bans did not stop the alleged hijackers of the planes used on September 11, 2001 to kill nearly 3,000 people. They used box cutters.

    Those who are determined to carry out premeditated mass murder like that which unfolded in Las Vegas, will do so no matter what implements they have at their disposal. Figuring out what factors actual cause an individual or organization to contemplate and carry out mass murder is the only way to stop or reduce future acts of violence.

    Examining the heavily medicated, violent, and intentionally divided population of America and and the socioeconomic doldrums they inhabit would be a good place to start.
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    In my opinion the Gun debate ends with are you more afraid of your Government or the people in your

    country !

    I have seen what our Government has lied about, stolen, and done at the local ,state, and federal level for

    over 40 years with the corporate Gobalist owned Republicon and Democrap puppet show !

    I myself believe that a well informed and heavily armed people are the better choice to believe in after

    comparing what is left of the US,

    In comparison to third world countries where I also think we are headed with the massive debt

    and poor third worlders being brought in or simply just walking in especially with the war on terror

    we are told we are in on a sometimes daily bases !

    Regards,

    Paul


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    " A free people ought not

    only be armed and disciplined,but they

    should have sufficient

    arms and ammunition to

    maintain a status of

    Independence from any

    who might attempt to

    abuse them,which

    would include their

    Own Government"

    The Words of George Washington !
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