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    Default New SE Circleboat Racing class proposal

    Low Buck APBA Circle boat racing anyone??????

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    There's been a lot of talk about the need for an entry level runabout circleboat class. Well Jeff Woonton has put just such a proposal before the APBA board, and has gotten a fairly positive responce. What we need know is to show the APBA Board that there really is an interest and if the create the class, drivers and boats will turn out.

    We got into quite a bit of the details on the proposal on the V-Driveboat.com forum.

    Budget Circle Boat Class Anyone??? http://www.v-driveboat.com/showthrea...&threadid=2020


    But if this is going to happen then we need to get Jeff as many letters as possible ASAP!!!!!

    Everyone is complaining about not being able to race V Drive Circleboats, well here's your chance to show APBA and everyone else that Circle boat racing is alive and lots of people are interested in it!!!!



    New APBA Small Block Circleboat Class post #1

    Tim "Canam10" among others has been working behind the scenes trying to get something going as a low cost entry level circle boat class.

    The small block class that we have discussed.

    Jeff Wooton put the proposal before the APBA board this week, and received a favorable responce, but he needs your help to make it happen.

    We need everyone with any interest to write letters to the APBA supporting the new class.

    Here is a copy of the email that was sent to Tim.


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Jeffrey Wooton
    To:
    Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 5:19 PM
    Subject: RE: APBA MEETING




    The IRC was and seems to be very open to the idea. I proposed everything as we communicated and it was received well. The motion was made by the IRC to table the decision until I could provide "Letters of intent" from all of those interested in running the class. So, before going back to the IRC, I will need to collect all of the letters from individuals committed to running this class and I will likewise get letters from those I know. The letter needs to be addressed to the APBA IRC c/o Jeff Wooton, Commissioner and can be drafted and e-mailed to me. Once I receive enough letters of intent to "show" the need for the class and/or demand for the class I can once again move the motion back on the floor for a vote. The vote will also stipulate that this is for the 2006 season.

    All in all we were successful. Please get these letters to me ASAP and I will submit them to the IRC through our message board with an outline showing the numbers.

    Stay in touch,

    Jeff



    We have a good chance at making this happen lets not blow it !!!!!!

    Start writing Ladies and Gentleman!!!!!!!

    Bob

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    Hull specs will be the same as the existing inboard class boats, SS, PS.


    Here are the proposed engine specs.

    Sportsman “E” Engine Specs

    Chevrolet/GM OEM Passenger Car or Truck 350 Block – 4.060 bore allowed with stock 4 bolt main caps.
    • 3.500 Maximum Stoke OEM or Equivalent Crankshaft in all aspects
    • Wet Sump Oil System – Oil Pump of stock type in stock position – Any steel oil pan – NO EXTERNAL OIL PUMPS
    • OEM or Equivalent Connecting Rods in all aspects – 5.700 length center to center
    • Stock type cast or forged flat top pistons with valve relief
    • Any timing chain set – NO GEAR OR BELT DRIVEN DRIVES
    • Any Stock Type bearings, gaskets, rings, oil pump
    • Camshaft shall be flat tappet with solid lifters – Lifters shall be stock diameter (.842). The current approved camshafts are:


    Cam MFG. Part No. Grind No. Lift Int/Exh. Dur@.050 Lobe C/Angle

    ISKY 201549 547 B .547/.555 258/263 106

    CROWER 00356 294FDP .540/.557 260/266 105

    CRANE 111411 F256/3634-25-5 .545/.563 256/264 105

    COMP CAM 12-506-5 288BTL-6 .550/.560 259/262 106

    • Average Minimum Deck: ZERO
    • 10:1 Maximum Compression Ratio
    • Any Starter, Flywheel, Driveshaft Coupler, Timing Chain Cover, Oil Cooler, Plug Wires, Points Type Distributor or HEI Distributor
    • Any OEM Stock Type Design Steel Cylinder Head. The currently approved aftermarket cylinder heads are: DART IRON EAGLE, WORLD PRODUCTS S/R TORQUER and PRO TOP LINE/PRO TORQUER. All cylinder heads shall comply with the following criteria: 23 degree heads, NO PORTING, NO POLISHING, NO BOWL BLENDING, NO PORT MATCHING, No “Race Ready” heads, NO GRINDING

    Maximum Intake Runner Volume: 180cc
    Maximum Intake Valve Size: 2.02
    Maximum Exhaust Valve Size: 1.625

    • Any Steel Pushrod – 5/16 or 3/8 Maximum Diameter
    • Valve Springs, Keepers & Retainers shall be STEEL
    • Roller Rocker Arms permitted – 1.52 Maximum Ratio – Posi-locks allowed – Guide Plated permitted – NO SHAFT TYPE - NO STUD GIRDLES
    • Intake Manifold – Any Dual Plane Manifold – NO OPEN PLENUM MANIFOLDS
    • Maximum 4150 style 650 CFM Holly Carburetor – Current Approved Part No. 4777 or No. 4776 (need to add Cracker Box lingo)
    • Exhaust system – Maximum 2” Primaries – Maximum 3.5” Collector – NO STEPPED HEADERS – COLLECTOR HAS TO BE ONE DIAMETER ONLY

    NO TITANIUM ENGINE PARTS – PERIOD!!!!
    Last edited by Norseman; 01-29-2006 at 03:59 PM.

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    Buzz and Paul Miller are currently looking over the engine specs to try to close loopholes. This will keep the engines affordable and lower horsepower.
    All questions and ideas should be sent to Jeff Wooton as he is the APBA
    inboard racing commission member that is pushing this new (revived)
    class. His Email is: wooton@msn.com. Greg Barker, Tim Shulte and I are
    just facilitators that will keep this project moving forward until we all
    can hit the rivers and lakes. Hopefully early summer. If we all do it right,
    many flatbottoms can be pulled out of garages or from under tarps and
    get back to racing. I had my first E Racing runabout in 1958 and want
    to have another in 2006. My engine should be ready this month and
    we will test at Dayton Ohio testing in late April. Hopefully it won't snow
    6" as it did last year.
    Thanks to all for their input and help.
    Rob Kaufman
    Can't Wait Racing
    Flatbottoms Forever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotten Rob
    Buzz and Paul Miller are currently looking over the engine specs to try to close loopholes. This will keep the engines affordable and lower horsepower.
    All questions and ideas should be sent to Jeff Wooton as he is the APBA
    inboard racing commission member that is pushing this new (revived)
    class. His Email is: wooton@msn.com. Greg Barker, Tim Shulte and I are
    just facilitators that will keep this project moving forward until we all
    can hit the rivers and lakes. Hopefully early summer. If we all do it right,
    many flatbottoms can be pulled out of garages or from under tarps and
    get back to racing. I had my first E Racing runabout in 1958 and want
    to have another in 2006. My engine should be ready this month and
    we will test at Dayton Ohio testing in late April. Hopefully it won't snow
    6" as it did last year.
    Thanks to all for their input and help.
    Rob Kaufman
    Can't Wait Racing
    Flatbottoms Forever!
    Rob, thanks for your email contact, I have been very interested in this endeavor and have pushed behind the scenes for all I am worth for it's acceptance within APBA. As an entry level class, it is unequaled but as a Racer Reunion devise, it's nearly perfect! So many of us have been denied our golden years wish to return to the cockpit and mash the gas but we know our limitations, especially those of us who recently got wet! Common sense and fear has proven to be wise reasons some of us ignore dangerous boating especially at our age! Here it is folks! Economic, low speed safe, and exciting flat racing. Some worry about runaway investors, light boats and dyno tuned money pit engines, but who cares? Heck, put a claimer dollar figure on the whole package like stock cars. I applaud APBA for their wisdom and effort, even foresight in considering the E boats return!
    Incidently, I know where there is a surviving E boat three stringer Lavey! Ready to race for 7Gs!

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    I recently talked to Jeff Wooton and he said that the letters
    of intent are still trickling in. He would like to see at least 6
    more so we can show real
    interest to APBA.
    We now have four boats being set up right now in Ohio and
    New York. I'm ready today.
    Out West, Buzz and Paul have given a lesson in weightlifting
    as they pick up (physically) their new Wannabe SE hull. See
    another site for this. We should be able to have at least 6 or 7
    in APBA regions 6 and 2. Some will be the latest lightweights and
    some older, bigger hulls but will all have similar engines so competion
    can begin when the weather and water get warmer.
    Any of you Florida and Louisiana guys sitting on old SS or SK
    boats, hose them off and put in a small block spec engine.
    We can grow this class and have economical and safe racing
    but only a few us us can't expand this program.
    It takes more participants. Join in now.
    Let's get going now before I'm too damn old to crawl
    into the cockpit and find the starter button.
    Flatbottoms Forever!!
    Rob

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    Default New SE class runabouts

    We are finally getting close to approval by the Inboard Racing Commission
    of APBA. possibly before the end of the month. Some of us have moved
    forward and are getting our boats and engines assembled now.
    Buzzz Miller has a new site for the SE class. You can check it out at
    www.Wannaberacing.net. It's a start and we are looking for a lot more
    teams to get aboard. There are more than a dozen committed already.
    We have interest in the Northeast, Northwest, and Southwest now.
    Take the cover off that flatbottom and put a low cost SB Chevy 350 cu.in
    in it and let's all hit the water this summer.
    Flatbottoms forever !!
    Can't Wait SE-169
    Rotten Rob

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