I had forgotten about the details of that Bill. I was making only sketchy notes then to refresh my memory knowing full well that those notes would be instantly recalled. Now I kick myself for not writing up the phone conversations after they were done. After my post, I talked to Joe today and said I couldn't post the real story, because it might be a "hot potato". He agreed, and so I left that part of the story out. I had the names of some involved, but not remembering correctly all that transpired, I chose to leave it lay.