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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    Hey Lee, Make it around the end of January next year------will be there for my 80th, will bring Mark and Craig and Lou and Gary [rat bag] Jilly and Vick.

    Bill always bitches !!!!!!!!!!!!
    Jackie, Great idea!!! That would be fantastic...I'll get the ball rolling and get back to you soon. Of course, the organizers are old as dirt and cranky as hell, so I'll have to make it their idea. More to follow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    Think the 110+ mph. was a bit like a French mile----a tad stretched----even on Windermere at the speed trials the hot OE'S were in the low 90's, But i never saw or heard of Lasse's rig before, so could get a bloody nose on this one.
    The OZ record in 77 was not as quick as that, are you pulling our plonkers Lasse ?????
    Hehe..I answer Lee here to..

    The small picture show the engine design..

    Well..the V-P König was extremly powerful and both Gert Lowisin and Dieter König was
    behind me.
    We spent many weeks testing different things at the Konig factory.
    Lots of horse power running on Methanol.
    We did not use nitro..
    During a race.. the speed was way lower..but at testing under perfect conditions, flat water, big prop,
    flying the boat and over 10,000 RPM took you there..
    There was a reason for the four OMC OE boats to stay on the trailer in the pit at the OE World Championship race in Brodenbach 1977..then protesting the race to UIM..
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    Jackie..what is your memory from this race..??

    The ON and OE World Championship race in Auronzo, Italy 1976
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    I wasn't meaning custom built raceboats----------but production line, everyday, take granny for a spin pleasure boats. ie; Baggies -----Glastron--------Fletcher-------family type stuff that made profits for builders and dealers.
    Jackie:

    Between us and Chris Craft, who built a later variant of the design (The "Chris Cat"), there were as many pleasure boat versions of the Shadow Cat hull as race boats....and we sold through dealers who made nice profits on them as well.

    The bottom line is that there were a host of hulls (Center Consoles, Offshore fishing hulls, cruisers, etc) capable of handling the big OB's but the factories could not/did not produce a proper product........ and I believe the mega motors' demise had more to do with that than the fatalities in tunnel boat racing. If you look at the monsters coming out today from Yamaha and others and the boats they are installed on (big CC's), nothing is really new forward of the motor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T2x View Post
    Jackie:

    The bottom line is that there were a host of hulls (Center Consoles, Offshore fishing hulls, cruisers, etc) capable of handling the big OB's but the factories could not/did not produce a proper product........ and I believe the mega motors' demise had more to do with that than the fatalities in tunnel boat racing. If you look at the monsters coming out today from Yamaha and others and the boats they are installed on (big CC's), nothing is really new forward of the motor.

    T2x

    I agree 100%..We sold lots of big OMC outboards in the eighties.
    V-6 and V-8..
    Yes..there was quality issues.

    Edit..Some Swedish built boats for bigger outboards..Yes outboars sold by me..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lars Strom View Post
    Jackie..what is your memory from this race..??

    The ON and OE World Championship race in Auronzo, Italy 1976
    I remember Mark my son chasing Renato all through the pits threatening to beat his brains out----------He was about 20 years old and had just had a hole put in his boat with a bit of devious driving from the Italian. Renato hid in the truck and refused to come out-------His brother Giorgio took the boat to the top end of the lake and Renato jumped on his motorcycle and got in the boat where he was safe from a very angry young man. MTF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    I remember Mark my son chasing Renato all through the pits threatening to beat his brains out----------He was about 20 years old and had just had a hole put in his boat with a bit of devious driving from the Italian. Renato hid in the truck and refused to come out-------His brother Giorgio took the boat to the top end of the lake and Renato jumped on his motorcycle and got in the boat where he was safe from a very angry young man. MTF.
    Hehe Jackie..I have some memory of that..but here is more..

    This was also the first time I did see Renato Molinari play real dirty, well not really Renato but his second boat driven by the hired Zoppi..
    He sank Cees VD Velden driving a 2 liter OMC on purpose by running in to his boat before the start just in front of us at the far end of the race course.

    Molinari ended up winning both OE and ON at that race, but not really in a proper way. (ON)

    So I have seen stuff that you only get away with in Italy..
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    I dislike calling it F1----mainly because it never was a formula.!!!!!!!!!!! Open ended class open to only OMC goods as they were calling the shots.

    Well..Jackie..there was plenty of Mercs in the OZ class..all the way up to T-4..
    For example..Bristol 1979 and 1980.

    Maybe this is the right Fomula...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post

    I wasn't meaning custom built raceboats----------but production line, everyday, take granny for a spin pleasure boats. ie; Baggies -----Glastron--------Fletcher-------family type stuff that made profits for builders and dealers.

    .
    Jackie..I finally found a picture of my "production line, everyday, take granny for a spin pleasure boat" Fletcher from 1986..
    This was my own toy that summer..
    Yes, it is the Evinrude V-8 with OMC power steering.


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    Here is the right and much longer video from the Stockholm F1 V8 Race 1983/84


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UylWSQjJYw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lars Strom View Post
    Hehe Jackie..I have some memory of that..but here is more..

    This was also the first time I did see Renato Molinari play real dirty, well not really Renato but his second boat driven by the hired Zoppi..
    He sank Cees VD Velden driving a 2 liter OMC on purpose by running in to his boat before the start just in front of us at the far end of the race course.

    Molinari ended up winning both OE and ON at that race, but not really in a proper way. (ON)

    So I have seen stuff that you only get away with in Italy..
    Lars: you must not have been in St. Louis in '75 as Molinari tried his damnest to put Barry Woods out of the race. Woods finally got pissed and ran over Molinari. I still remember the prop cuts in the top of his boat. Merc had him disqualidied for reckless driving which cost him the race.

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