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    I get busy at work for a few days and you guys start a new topic that goes crazy.
    Here is my two cents.

    The rules are fine the way they are there just needs to be more emphazises put on making sure that everybody is interpeting them correctly.

    As far as changing lanes in the corners I beleive that is covered in bearing away. Which I got popped for at Saskatoon a couple a years ago on the third restart, running out front and lost my win.

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    No lucky dog? If your getting lapped, your set up is way off, it takes a few laps to make it around to catch and lap someone. If you make changes on a maybe restart you go to the end or sometimes a one lap penalty anyways.

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    When the leader is coming up on lap traffic, the boat being lapped does not have to get out of the way, they just need to hold there lane and not run the leader all over the course. You are being lapped!!! If you are on the inside lane, then stay there and turn on the pin. If your on the outside lane and coming to the corner, then leave the leader a lane to turn, DON"T HAMMER HIM!!! That's when PAY BACK comes around!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun Torrente View Post
    I think the rule in no way is perfect but i do not see an alternative that is going to be signifigantly safer while keeping the show good....

    I think if everyone used a little more common sense and respected there competitors a little more we would have less incidents.. Sometimes we need to remember that there are father, brothers and sisters in these boats and not just drivers

    Shaun
    Shaun is right on the money. His comment strikes true far beyond driving a race boat. I don't drive tunnels, yet, but in my hydros I see a lack of common sense just about every race. My dad said something a while ago that simply makes all kinds of sense. If we had all this saftey gear and good handling boats back in the hay days, we would have killed ourselves. His reference made sense to me, all the push for saftey and re-enforced cockpits, wearing kevlar, impact life jackets, etc, etc, etc, has caused a lot of folks to drive harder, and less smart. More chances are taken, because they know the other person is most likley going to walk away..... I am in no way saying we need to take away the saftey rules, I am simply making a point, and this point is the lack of common sense..... common sense tells me to leave more than a boat length at the faster speeds... in FEH we are almost as fast as the SST120 tunnels on a lot of courses.

    So Shaun, I totally agree with you, people need more common sense....

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    paybacks,,,,,,,,,,,,
    become part a major part of the problem,,,,,,,,,,,

    a driver gets slammed the heat before or at a race a yr ago
    and it could have been an accident to begin with
    and has that grudge pending,,,,,,,,,
    looking for the oportunity for "pay back time"
    when they get the chance they take it,,,,,,
    then other boats and drivers get caught up in a situation
    that should never had happened,,,,,,,,
    this has happened too many times,,,,,,,,,
    and boats have been broken and people have gotten hurt,,,,,,,,,,

    then you add other drivers on the same track at the same time
    with the same kind of grudge to another driver
    snowball effect

    to me this is more of the problem
    than the original overlap rule ,,,,,
    drivers know the overlap rule
    drivers know when they are driving with no respect for others in the field

    and them drivers need to be watched more
    and them yellow cards need to be used and enforced
    series owners and officials need to quit allowing certain drivers the freedom to drive in any unsfe manner,,,,,,,,,,,that puts other drivers safety at risk

    as shaun stated,,,we are brothers,fathers,have jobs to make it to on monday

    and tim,,,,,,,,,,
    you drove your *** off at port neches
    held off for 15 laps a fast boat
    moved over for leaders,,,
    and not holding grudge
    we all know when you are on the inside and get passed to be ready to let off before bouy,,,,,,,,,lane is not going to be there,,,,,,,
    tiff made a mistake and turned in too early,,,,,,,,thats all,,,,
    as a rookie to 45,,,you see it that way,,,,,,,,
    and thats refreshing for others to see
    and hopefully act on in same manner
    john

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    Would holding your lane in and out of at least the first turn at the start be such a bad idea?

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    Thank You John (MIFFCO).
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    Default Hey Shaun

    Since we're talking about all this due to Chris's accident, I have to ask if Randy was starting 6th! If so could this be a drawback to the 5 boat gate bouy? In my oppinion the 6th boat falls in behind the 1st boat (most of the time)after the gate bouy and doesn't have that 2 second damper that the 11th place boat has on the second flag! Therfore if there is a wreck or spin in the first 5 then another will soon follow because they don't have the time to react! Just a thought!

    Also the 2 flag start was introduced for tight courses like Augusta, is it really needed on wide courses that have plenty of room?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKL View Post
    Would holding your lane in and out of at least the first turn at the start be such a bad idea?
    No, not a bad idea at all, (for first turn ONLY) but I don’t think it’s possible on some courses…..where would boat 15, 16.....20 go… just not enough room for that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Hill View Post
    The boat being lapped SHOULD just get out of the way as fast as he can.
    That’s exactly what’s causing the accidents. If faster boat is capable to gain a lap on somebody, he is certainly capable of making a safe and quick pass. Lapped boat should just maintain his line and everything will be fine.
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    tiff made a mistake and turned in too early,,,,,,,,thats all,,,,
    as a rookie to 45,,,you see it that way,,,,,,,,
    and thats refreshing for others to see
    and hopefully act on in same manner
    john


    First of all, I was watching Tiffany the whole race and I have to step in here and say that it was totally a clean pass, and from our vantage point at the dock, it looked liked the other boat just went through the roostertail.
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