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    We should all hope Mercury is more successful in this venture than they have been in getting racers to abandon their antiquated "dirty" SST120 race engines which have been out of production for years and start racing the new Optimax race engine.

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    had one in the test tank just to other day, a 20". i don't think it's guna "FLY".

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    Quote Originally Posted by catndahats View Post
    if promoted properly
    Key words for tunnel boat racing in general.

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    I am cautiously optimistic about this program...

    The reason racers won't abandon the old engines, which by the way are not nearly as dirty as the bogus governmental study has the lemmings believe,
    ( no offense to anyone by saying that intended) is that no one was ever asked for a viable solution to the EPA knit wittery and government as always felt it knew best, and just acted.

    As with all governmental regulations, they could have done it right by simply asking those who use the engines what they would prefer to see happen, and a far better solution could have been come up with. If anyone thinks for a nano second that manufacturers would rather be making bumpstick motors than two stokes, guess again. I would love to see new pollution numbers using current oils for example with woe is me hug a tree gas. The study used to regulate and cause the demise of the two cycle as we all knew it, was from statistics taken 30 years ago, with leaded fuels. At that time, those numbers were stepped all over, because as usual, they could not make their case.

    Now that the production lines are being butchered into the new ways, this crap is going to be here to stay at least until someone shows the old way was better, as usually happens with everything.

    So, if this is what racing is supposed to evolve to, it is better than nothing, but I'm not sure how much right now..

    Add one more scary thing...With the state of the fuel situation, and may racers pulling back a bit, getting people to buy into a new expensive design might just be a self destruction unit in itself no matter how good it is to see.

    It's a bold step to say the very least at this particular juncture in time.

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    In France the class has limited success since they race with S850's & speeds are very different. The Hulls, usually ex-S850, are too light to take on the extra motor weight& are stern heavy. However if gas prices keep climbing they only get more popular with racers although as a spectator they are not very exciting to watch. There's another V class, "Promo Cup" that uses the same motors. Here, Evinrude has been more active in Offshore than in Inshore unfortunately. But at least that leaves Mercury still promoting Inshore racing.
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    had a stocker 850 Yamaha in the tank, that Merc got Zero for it.
    but for a beginner,it would be nice.


    some one please tell me how a hull that weighs more with less power is guna save fuel. cuzz i'm so not seein it

    whos got the Hemi Outboard

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    Tim,

    I don't think racing in Europe is in any better shape than in the US. While we continue with outdated classes which use equipment which is getting harder and harder to obtain all we are doing is slowly strangling the sport. We have to get a situation where the average guy can walk into a dealer or buy direct from the governing body a new package which is reliable and competitive. Gas over here is now around $9.36 a gallon for standard pump fuel so getting to races is now really the biggest cost. It's going to get a whole lot harder. It won't be much longer now until the environmentalists ban 2 strokes altogether so if we don't go green then powerboat racing could disappear overnight. The only way forward is to phase out the outdated classes. 2010 Green classes only, those dyed in the wool racers will find the money from somewhere we always do and at least anybody who wants to start up can buy new gear.

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    your right on target techteam

    last yr there were 63 sst 120s here in the states
    this yr 38
    the economy is going fast worldwide

    2006-2007 i tried to bring a new spin for the mini gt class here
    using a sealed from the store 4 stroke
    building a new hull to maximize what the motor had to offer
    to bring in new drivers with no motor experience to be able to buy 1

    was a commissioner then,,so took it to our chairman
    asked racers as i traveled the country thier thoughts
    of 1 hull design,,,and a sealed 4 stroke
    that can be store bought as a turn key rig

    opc was not enthused to try to promote it
    my response from 80% of drivers argued the 4 stroke sealed motor program
    so i shelved the idea,,,,,,,,,,,

    here parts are more abundant
    the omc 45&60 have reproduction parts being made
    to keep them going
    sst120 merc still selling parts in 2008
    no more blocks to be produced,,,there are still bolcks in stock till all sold
    so the willingness to go green is rejected harder than overseas

    but for a boat racing future
    something needs to be done to bring in new drivers with no motor experience
    merc is trying with the opti200 and the 60
    i tried with smaller 15&25
    if we dont give the merc motors a try,,,,
    merc is a business,,and the racing division is not a profitable division
    sooner than later it will go away without world support of the new products
    when the merc board of directors dont see any sales
    program cut,,,,,,,not good,,,,,,,,,,

    we may not like the less punch,less raw hp,,,quieter motors
    but by 2010 it could be gone if
    opc here dont get off butt,,,,,,,,and for 1nce"""""""and promote boat racing""""""""""
    and us support the new technology that the only motor manufacturer
    still making racing motors to keep the racing division from being cancelled

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    the 60hp 4 choker is not a replacement class for any thing. just an entry level class for New racers. show somethin New that is not a big compromise to the term Racin.

    So to hear what your sayin is in 2010 (two years from now) APBA will be tree hugger racin only, Slow and borin, well good luck with that. don't think you'll get to many takers on that.

    green racing, lead balloons, square wheels.

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    no 1 ever yet on this thread
    has said its a replacement class
    it is a whole new class
    has already been approved by opc at last annual meeting

    2010 a lot of emmission standards hit america
    car manufacturers already scrambling
    trying to get rid of big gas hogs they cannot sale
    gm down 18%,,,ford down 40%,chrysler down 48%
    they have to hit gpm minimum in 2010
    so a lot will be changing when these standards hit

    thats all im saying
    not wanting to get into a discussion of old motors
    i like the old motors ,,,,ive been building v6 mercs since 1981
    but nothing last forever
    the old motors are slowly being taken off lakes 1 state at a time by the epa
    im a realist
    john

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