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    There is a renaissance of the old Quincy and other early mod stuff going on. When I raced up in Seattle area, region 10 it was the heyday of all this "alky" stuff. I remember ELIMINATIONS in F hydro! All I could afford was an AU rig in those days and I always wanted to "get me onna' these"!

    So here's one nostalgia trip for you.I remember Bud Walters had one screamin' D alky made from a sandcast engine. Charlie Williams has it today. By a stroke of good luck I was able to get a Quincy sandcast D powerhead from ebay. After a battle with dried castor I was able to get it apart. It has the full treatment, at one time it even had "mumps" Doug Kay built me a set of stacks for it and we cut some off the Wiseco pistons for gas. I have it nearly redone and will have it to run at collector meets and / or races in 2011!

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    Bringing this back for new members to see and comment on.

    Link to the first page: http://www.boatracingfacts.com/forum...read.php?t=910
    Since 1925, about 150 different racing outboards have been made.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MTECHMARINE View Post
    There is a renaissance of the old Quincy and other early mod stuff going on. When I raced up in Seattle area, region 10 it was the heyday of all this "alky" stuff. I remember ELIMINATIONS in F hydro! All I could afford was an AU rig in those days and I always wanted to "get me onna' these"!

    So here's one nostalgia trip for you.I remember Bud Walters had one screamin' D alky made from a sandcast engine. Charlie Williams has it today. By a stroke of good luck I was able to get a Quincy sandcast D powerhead from ebay. After a battle with dried castor I was able to get it apart. It has the full treatment, at one time it even had "mumps" Doug Kay built me a set of stacks for it and we cut some off the Wiseco pistons for gas. I have it nearly redone and will have it to run at collector meets and / or races in 2011!

    Hope you enjoy the pictures.
    Nice photos, Bill! I think sandcast means KG-9, right?

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    Brichter:

    I think the driver of the "F" Hydro is possibly Wayne Walgrave. I haven't seen him in probably 30 years but I think I recognize him because that was the type life jacket he wore.

    Plus 6 cyl flatheads were not that common and not just everyone had one. Bruce Summers of course did, but I don't think that is him. Perhaps Gene East will chime in, cause I am sure he knows for sure who it is.

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    Don't know who the pit men are, but Bill Van is right. Wayne Walgrave (from I believe La Verne, Minnesota) is at the helm of his own hydro design....Chapparal. What a beautiful noise that motor made. (Except to to pit men who saw my mouth moving might say "Huh? What?"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Oil Racing Team View Post
    Don't know who the pit men are, but Bill Van is right. Wayne Walgrave (from I believe La Verne, Minnesota) is at the helm of his own hydro design....Chapparal. What a beautiful noise that motor made. (Except to to pit men who saw my mouth moving might say "Huh? What?"
    Bill and Wayne are correct on all points!
    I used to have a CD of Walgrave and Summer's 6-cyl Loopers running together.
    It was like a symphony!
    Unfortunately, when I tried to play it about a month ago the sound track had mysteriously disappeared.

    BUMMER!

    BTW: I rode with Wayne in FRR at DePue back in the 70s. Wayne said his regular deck rider was sick and asked if I'd like to fill in for him.
    "Naw Wayne, thanks anyway but ask someone else", NOT!
    You bet your sweet bippie and anything else you want to throw in! I was in that boat like a duck on a june bug!
    If you think a 6-Looper sounds good from the bank, you should hear & feel it just inches away from your butt!
    That was a boat ride to remember, and even 40+ years later I still remember!
    Thanks Wayne!

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    If you would go back and read my article call the "Sandcast Thunderbolts" you will see that a small groupe of Mark 55's where indeed Sandcast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 194265 View Post
    If you would go back and read my article call the "Sandcast Thunderbolts" you will see that a small groupe of Mark 55's where indeed Sandcast.
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    you may be correct, but MK55's had C.C.'s with small carb openings whreas the 55H C.C's had the larger carb openings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 194265 View Post
    If you would go back and read my article call the "Sandcast Thunderbolts" you will see that a small groupe of Mark 55's where indeed Sandcast.
    I read your Sand Cast Thunderbolt article again & my comment regarding the MK55H still holds true that MK55H's were die cast & none were sand cast. First as I said earlier they all had padded cylinders & secondly they had a C.C. to reed block opening & carb mounting stud location to accept the Carter carb used on the 20H & 55H. Later Mercury came out with the conversion kit for the 20H's with the Tillotson KA7A carb and APBA allowed those to be used on the MK55H as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokin' Joe View Post
    Nice photos, Bill! I think sandcast means KG-9, right?
    KF-9, KG-9, Mark40 and Mark50 were all sandcast ... The KF and KG used gear drive distributors ... the 40 and 50 used the belt.
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