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Tomtall
09-18-2007, 06:47 PM
Some day we may not only run our boats on water we may also RUN our boats on water. This is amazing stuff. Could be the biggest thing since the invention of the toaster.:)

Allen J. Lang
09-18-2007, 09:15 PM
Hey Tom, would this pass the current fuel testing for stock and mods? :)
As the gal reporter said, what would it do to the price of water?
Sounds like a great stride forward. :cool:

Boatnut
09-18-2007, 11:58 PM
They are going to be very very rich men. Can you imagine how much the fuel companies will pay to get it and keep it on a dusty shelf in the back room forever, or at least till oil runs out.

JohnsonM50
09-19-2007, 03:52 AM
Its old news for sure left to obscurity on purpose. I know of a guy who is experimenting with hydrogen generaters, homemade of course. He test runs them in his car by feeding it along with the gas and gets nearly free boost for uphills [being a hilly area is cool]. The generaters dont produce enough for ongoing power yet. They get warm and turn the water a weird yellow. What I think is cool is it runs along with gas, you can feel the extra power it gives. The water never runs out of hydrogen, it will draw hydrogen from the air when its exposed.

Skoontz
09-19-2007, 05:59 AM
Since the 40's hot rodders have been playing and experiementing with water injection systems of all types...Good to see someone is actually doing more with it. So long as we don't get the Preston Tucker syndrome enacted by the car and oil companies all over again, that system might actually fly!

Master Oil Racing Team
09-19-2007, 06:56 AM
Water for fuel, frying grease for fuel, corn for fuel....if somebody can figure out a way to get cheese and jalapenos into the mix, we could have the Nacho Fuel Company. Actually, now that I think about it they could be, along with beans, added into a compost pit and extract methane gas which could then be compressed and hooked up like NOS for a little boost.;) :D

jtb
09-19-2007, 09:07 AM
Could be the biggest thing since the invention of the toaster.:)

you must really like toast :)

JohnsonM50
09-19-2007, 01:59 PM
Water for fuel, frying grease for fuel, corn for fuel....if somebody can figure out a way to get cheese and jalapenos into the mix, we could have the Nacho Fuel Company. Actually, now that I think about it they could be, along with beans, added into a compost pit and extract methane gas which could then be compressed and hooked up like NOS for a little boost.;) :D BEANS ALONE [when I process em] :eek: :p

JohnsonM50
09-19-2007, 02:03 PM
Since the 40's hot rodders have been playing and experiementing with water injection systems of all types...Good to see someone is actually doing more with it. So long as we don't get the Preston Tucker syndrome enacted by the car and oil companies all over again, that system might actually fly!
My old 63 Sport Fury sure liked those foggy mornings but separating and inducing pure hydrogen is way more significant than a mist system.

Roy Hodges
09-19-2007, 03:14 PM
Some day we may not only run our boats on water we may also RUN our boats on water. This is amazing stuff. Could be the biggest thing since the invention of the toaster.:).......................
I have been talking about this all my life , but , since i never went past the idea stage , people ALL knew it's impossible. (they think) . I wonder what will happen to this guy ,if he succeeds. Major car companies all (except B M W ) failed ,running on hydrogen , & i am sure oil companies will stop at NOTHING to silence him . Pray that i am wrong .

fyremanbill
09-19-2007, 08:31 PM
The key is that the converter uses electricity. With electrical current and a catalyst, water can be separated into it's basic elements. High school level chemistry. The problem is that the separation takes more energy (electrical) than it will produce. If it could be done with a positive energy output, we'd already be using it.

fyremanbill
09-19-2007, 08:37 PM
Operating an engine on hydrogen is easy, it's just a low density combustible gas. It works best with direct injection as it is takes up so much volume that it displaces a large amount of intake air. Supercharging also works well and will restore gasoline like performance, but it's hard to store without a fuel cell. Enough compressed hydrogen gas to drive 200mi would take a tank on a trailer.

Roy Hodges
09-19-2007, 11:18 PM
it seems to me that , right now, the most practical use of it might be in a stationary engine /powerplant generator on the shore of a river or lake,or ... maybe on an ocean shore, but then you also have to make fresh water out of sea water.

JohnsonM50
09-20-2007, 04:06 AM
it seems to me that , right now, the most practical use of it might be in a stationary engine /powerplant generator on the shore of a river or lake,or ... maybe on an ocean shore, but then you also have to make fresh water out of sea water. Busesin Canada are using hi volume low pressure roof mouted fuel tanks for hydrogen. Theres been a discovery lately where a certian undisclosed frequency makes hydrogen easy to seperate from salt water. In my pals car mentioned above the electric used is 12 volt however it tends to overload if he runs an accesory. I think more efficiency from hydrogen generaters is around the corner. its all in the material used per h2o volume or something. How many filement tests did Edison conduct?? :confused: