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Masaru Wada
09-25-2009, 08:43 AM
My father collects antique outboard machines, and restoring is a hobby.
It completed it today.
This is YAMAHA P6.
It is an outboard machine that Yamaha Motor Co., Ltd. put on the market first.
Some parts look like Mercury outboard machine at that time.
At that time, some recalls are done, and it has been collected from the market.
It is an engine excluded from an official history of Yamaha Motor Co., Ltd..
It is a very unusual outboard machine.

http://proxy.f2.ymdb.yahoofs.jp/users/65566f33/bc/b258/__hr_/d073.jpg?BCMn4MLBMSOd3mfN
http://proxy.f2.ymdb.yahoofs.jp/users/65566f33/bc/b258/__hr_/85e2.jpg?BCMn4MLBG8eJSjNO
http://proxy.f2.ymdb.yahoofs.jp/users/65566f33/bc/b258/__hr_/7a4b.jpg?BCMn4MLBa52x1Fk6

This is one of the collections of him.
It is an outboard machine that Honda put on the market 40 years or more ago.
This is 4st flat engine.
This engine was disposed by a lot of recalls, and did not remain in an official history either.
http://proxy.f2.ymdb.yahoofs.jp/users/65566f33/bc/b258/__hr_/a2d1.jpg?BC854MLB0fEhltT5
http://proxy.f2.ymdb.yahoofs.jp/users/65566f33/bc/b258/__hr_/7a25.jpg?BC854MLBPGVNBAVc


Is you interested in an old outboard machine of Japan?
If it is interested,I have attatched more pictures.

YAMAHA antique and other ......Rotary engine outboard...

Skoontz
09-25-2009, 09:37 AM
Thank you for sharing with us. you are right, this is a very unusual enbgine indeed, as is the Honda. As with much of the Japanese engines, there are many similarities to American engines, that Yamaha looks like an old KG-4 Mercury in design.

Pop990
09-25-2009, 10:03 AM
thank you for the history. It would be nice if all the restorers would show their picture along with their work.

John Schubert T*A*R*T
09-25-2009, 03:00 PM
thank you for the history. It would be nice if all the restorers would show their picture along with their work.

Check the Antique outboard thread. There are several including my MK55H & my MK75H clone with modified SST45 tower & adaptor that I got from yoy.

Mark75H
09-25-2009, 03:32 PM
Masaru, I like these pictures. Please post more. I find this very interesting.

Master Oil Racing Team
09-25-2009, 08:34 PM
Masaru, I am in agreement with Sam. Please post more pictures. I like the pictures with your family....and any more tales you have about these motors or other stories about motor boats would be most welcome.

Masaru Wada
09-27-2009, 12:39 PM
There is a company called MAZDA of the car manufacturer.
It is the company which is famous for a rotary engine.
MAZDA was a company name called the "Toyo Kogyo" before.

This is a rotary engine outboard motor released at that time.
This is a single rotar engine.
This was released with oem product of Mazda by YAMMAR.
http://proxy.f2.ymdb.yahoofs.jp/users/65566f33/bc/b258/__sr_/3cc4.jpg?BCjZmNLBmrJUCh_L
http://proxy.f2.ymdb.yahoofs.jp/users/65566f33/bc/b258/__sr_/4487.jpg?BCjZmNLBYeIj_RNK
http://proxy.f2.ymdb.yahoofs.jp/users/65566f33/bc/b258/__sr_/810f.jpg?BCjZmNLBEpr0u4k7

And this is a twin rotar engine.
http://proxy.f2.ymdb.yahoofs.jp/users/65566f33/bc/b258/__sr_/e701.jpg?BCjZmNLBnXKVHSIG
http://proxy.f2.ymdb.yahoofs.jp/users/65566f33/bc/b258/__sr_/9c6f.jpg?BCjZmNLBXmFQLbdD


Thank you for an impression, everybody.
I exhibit a picture patiently.

There is still the collection of father a lot.

KAWASAKI,Scott, Mercury,,,,,

Mark75H
09-27-2009, 12:42 PM
Thank you! More is better!

smittythewelder
09-28-2009, 11:55 AM
Wonderful, Wada-san; we in the States have little or no access to information on the history of Japanese mechanical technology. Many years ago, and American writer, C.D. Bohan, did a good series of articles in Cycle magazine about the history of the various Japanese motorcycle manufacturers, and of motorcycle racing in Japan in the 1950s and 60s. But I've never encountered any such thing on Japanese outboards.

If you or anyone you know can enlighten us on the history of outboard racing in Japan, we would be fascinated. I would particularly like to hear about the history of Fuji and Yamato. We know a bit about the professional gambling races (I saw one in 1970), but nothing about the amateur racing that is more like what we do.

Thanks for what you've already shown us!!

Masaru Wada
09-28-2009, 03:09 PM
Yamaha P65&P95
These are very old, and it is a precious outboard motor.

http://proxy.f2.ymdb.yahoofs.jp/users/65566f33/bc/b258/__sr_/db4c.jpg?BC2v9NLBroiEx_q7
http://proxy.f2.ymdb.yahoofs.jp/users/65566f33/bc/b258/__sr_/9a5f.jpg?BC2v9NLB0qi6h8Bl
http://proxy.f2.ymdb.yahoofs.jp/users/65566f33/bc/b258/__sr_/5d73.jpg?BC2v9NLBDOdnMlFu

Yamaha does not have an antique outboard motor.
They come to watch these outboard motors for the production of history of a company and the document.



professional gambling races outboard

There are some photographs in this site.
http://www.kyo-tei.com/maniac/oldmotor.htm

Mark75H
09-28-2009, 04:40 PM
I want to know about these boats

http://www.kyo-tei.com/maniac/image/new1p-2.jpg

http://www.kyo-tei.com/maniac/image/new1p-1.jpg

http://www.kyo-tei.com/maniac/image/new3p-1.jpg

http://www.kyo-tei.com/maniac/image/new3p-2.jpg

http://www.kyo-tei.com/maniac/image/tunnel-1.jpg

http://www.kyo-tei.com/maniac/image/tunnel-2.jpg


They are on this page: http://www.kyo-tei.com/maniac/oldboat.htm

Masaru Wada
09-29-2009, 05:03 AM
Kyoutei is the professional gambling boat races.
These are boats of Kyotei.
All these are Yamato products.

Type YL-110
#1 Black/Red/Yellow
1p hydoro boat,
This is a boat made for Yamato 203-SS outboard motor.
In 1988, this boat was used in some motorboat races ground.
It was not adopted in the next year.

FPA-304X
#6 White/green
3p hydoro boat,
A trial product.
It is a boat produced experimentally for 3p hydoro races in 1987.

#3 White/red
Tunnel Boat
A trial product.
This was produced experimentally in pursuit of faster speed and operation responsiveness.

geodavid
09-29-2009, 08:40 AM
Thank you for posting these pictures. Can you tell us a bit about the racing background of your family? Nice picture of your Father. We hear about the pari mutuel racing, however, little about the history of true racing outboards in Japan. I drove one of the early Yamato's imported into the US, however, the motor was quite sophisticated by then. My father began racing here in the 1930's. Ergo, I was a second generation racer of Japanese heritage.
Alan Ishii

John Schubert T*A*R*T
10-17-2009, 05:04 AM
Alan,

Is this a Yamato?

Karen,

The first is a Yamato, then a Martin 4 HP, then a Looper & Looper parts.

Ron Hill
10-17-2009, 08:38 AM
The top picture, Karen, is a Yamato 80. Tom Ige brought these in from the Japanese Boat Racing Gambling Curcuit about 1976. Many of those motors still run in 20 SS Hydro.

The #3 Boat, is tunnel built by Bob Carlson. It was the first boat I ever saw with break-awy pickle forks. The Japanese required these tips to be made of rubber. The boat was much fast than the Gambling boats, but also turned much better.

The gambling boats slide and allow for passing, which makes for exciting racing.

If you have seen a Bob Carlson Bob Cat, you can see the same lines in this boat's deck!

Geo David:

Masura and his dad are coming to visit in November. Maybe we come get together...while they are here...

When are we going to get to gether? I am doing a ton of machine shop work with my props, maybe we should talk. 714-608-7147

Allen J. Lang
10-17-2009, 09:13 AM
:cool:Hi Karen- the engine below the Martin 40 is a 5 hp Flambeau. This was a very unusual engine. Built in 2 halves.

smittythewelder
10-17-2009, 02:15 PM
Any of you interested in the Japanese pari-mutuel racing equipment should not only click on the website provided by Sam, but click on each of the several parts immediately above where it says "Home" and "Maniacs, etc." One section is devoted to a fellow demonstrating driving positions, and the runabout drivers here will love his cornering technique.

It appears the rounded-bottom single-step hull design has changed little since 1970. Don't mess with a good thing, I guess.