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Quincy Looper Pics.............
There was a thread started on another board devoted to this famous old engine. TONS of info, pics, and words from drivers who used to race them. Sadly, :( the thread has been deleted. Far from just "Taking up space", the Thread was still active, and recieved new posts, pics and information as recently as a month and a half ago. I posted most of the pics on that thread, and figured they had a new home and were there to stay.
I had a folder of Looper pics I stored on my PC, but deleted them myself figuring they were posted in a place they could stay. Well.........that did not happen, and we have to start again from scratch.
I have a hunch someone like Sam has made copies of all the info and pics that were there.........Hopefully I am right, because it looks to me like this is the new place where they could find a permanent home and be enjoyed by any who wish to drool over these magnificent engines.
I'll be the 1st------Enjoy!!
Welcome to the Board Frank!!
Great to have you here!!
Question: How in the heck did you keep the law from coming to the door every time you dyno'd an engine??
Is that a Quincy piston???
No big deal, but I think that (Picture of a Quincy Piston) is a Levendusky piston for a Quincy.... My reason, I thought Stan Levendusky lightened his pistons above the wrist pin....
My dad didn't tlike the lighter pistons as he like to use a heavy piston to take the heat out of the cyclinder....but loopers were so new to us....we couldn't figure out how the gas knew where to go in those cyclinders as they had so many holes...
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Where the Loop comes from
With a bunch of special high speed photography they actually figured out that if the ports and passages are correctly shaped and postioned the incoming gases not only squirt up into the cylinder .... but they can even loop around thru themselves before heading toward the exhaust port.
Something sort of like this:
(OMC had some really nice graphics in their brochures when the 49 ci triple came out; I'll dig them up and post them soon)
Thanks, Dave, we ain't done!!!
That "C" Looper on the ORANGE DeSilva is Freddy Hauenstein's. This was one of, if not the first Loop "C" to be shipped from Quincy...Right after this motor was built, they came out with the larger megaphones, which OLD Fred never bought.....
Maybe, Frank could give us some history on the small megaphones compared to the larger???
They blue "CRANK PLATE" is a Lon Stevens piece. and the mid section is a CLASSIC Lon Stevens weld job. Freddy liked those Starnes lower units, he even ran them on his Konig...
The Hauenstein's never liked this DeSilva, until I borrowed it. Seems the first think I do when I borrow a boat is to flatten the bottom. I borrowed this boat wor the 1967 Winternationals and won with it, then took it on to Phoenix to the Playboy Club/Schlitz Beer Race and won there... and I finished second in the free for all...
My "D" Konig beat the Cracker Box, the 280 Hydro, the Super Stock Runabout, the F Hydro, but not the SK...I was close on the start, at leasat that is what George May told eveyone when they wanted to protest... I got $250 for running second...
It was one of those deals, OUTBOARDS against Inboards...five laps...I jumped them at the start, and only one guy caught me...but no one was impressed, little outboard making NO noise...
Gave the boat back to Fred, in the Spring of '68. He wanted to know what I did to the boat to make it run so well... I told him....After that, Freddy listened to me, SOMETIMES!!!!!
Ron's - Harry's FA/FB Looper
Ron,
First off, thanks to you and Ted for building a nice forum here.
Were the FA/FB engines from about the same time frame? I think the FA's of late '66/early '67 were pulling almost as much hp as the earlier FB's. The early loop engines had tons of lo-end torque, but hp rolled off rapidly. For our shop, it meant running 16:21 gears, swinging big wheels with big cups and chewing up lower units on a regular basis. In the AD (After Dyno) years, the peak hp began moving from 8400-8500 into the 92-9500 range. This made finding a decent 1:1 wheel much easier. I'm relying on a bad memory here, but I think in '72 the FA's pulled about 55hp and the FB's about 66hp on straight methanol.
We ran our own pistons, mainly because we were always looking at ring shape, ring pin location, dome configuration, clearance, and ring/cylinder fit. There may have been blanks from different sources, but the machining was usually done at QW.
Frank