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  1. 159539 Spammers Denied Registration: We Were Down Because of An Attack

    Deluxe Hosting shut us down because of BOT attacks. Same people that are on Twitter I suspect!
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    36 Class 2022: Mickey Schwarzenbach

    I saw the Allen Sutphin, Sr. would have had a birthday, yesterday.

    He was a Gentleman 6 Racer as were most 6 racers.

    Mickey Schwarzenbach's dad was the "Leader of the 36 Gang" and he's trying...
  3. Old 36 Pictures, Long Ago in a Far Off Land called California

    36's ran Johnson and Evinrude fishing motors. They were slow, heavy and cheap. Danny Schwarzenbach kept them running and racing.
  4. Crazy Ed's in Havasu

    I'm guessing Crazy Ed's in Havasu has been got 50 years. Havasu is a real city now days. Crazy Ed's was a fun place 1966-68....Times change.

    Havasu has an indoor dog park that you can have a...
  5. The Latest news from the Underground Boat Racing Syndicate

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    Rules are frequently written with someone's best interest in mind....

    https://www.boatracingfacts.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.png One Pound or Twenty...
    My dad weighed boats for years. He would never tell you what you weighed. He sit the scales at say 365 pounds,...
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    OMC "A" Gearcases are all on 15 Mercs

    You take a $1,000 OMC, rob the gearcase for a Mercury. That's how you grow a class! You kill a $1,000 motor with a faster $3,000. This kind of thinking is amazing!
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    Salton Sea 1961

    32-C was Cliff Bedford's AU, 9-C was Mary Anderson, her black lace life jacket had a purple collar. 1-C was Ted May's A-B Hydro and I think that is Dave Mayer standing there next to Roy Miner and...
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    Salton Sea 2022

    Ernie Dawe and I took a little ride down to the Salton Sea, yesterday 9/24/22. A lot a water, a long way from the road, no launch ramps to be seen, no boats on the water, 103 degrees. Bales of hay...
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    402 XS Was Really A "JUNK" Motor

    By the time the 402XS came out Mercury was moving away from the "Direct Charge: Pistons, and building V6 motor.

    Most 402 XS's that I knew about broke the sleeves around the exhaust ports. We kind...
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    A 402 XS is 1/3 of A 1500XS

    If I'm not mistaken, a 402 XS is 1/3 of a 1500 XS. Check the bored and strong. I think there are quite a few 1500 XS parts around.
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    Why We Have "Racing" Gearcases and Why We Don't Need Them

    Our first Mini Enduro had like 67 boats in three classes. No racing gearcases.

    We had a hell of a five hour race. The trophy presentation was over the roof with cheers.

    The Miller Boys from...
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    So, I bought three Tohatsu 30's from Western Engine

    Western Engine was good to me, they paid COD when I delivered propellers. When I found out the motors only cost $450, so I bought three.

    There were some young men working at Western Engine, Chuck...
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    Props Are the Least of the Problem

    Everyone of these Race Boats have stock production gearcases.

    Hell that 6 HP or whatever have one of my 16 pitch cleavers on it. Check out the skeg, I'll bet he can turn on a dime.
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    Don't Kill Classes, Combine Them

    I have not finished my saga, but found s picture of one of the first Quincy Looper sirca 1963. The lower unit has Mercury gears but the lower unit casting was made by Marshall Eldridge. Lower...
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    By 1982 I, I was Pretty Well Pissed Off At Mercury, OMC and APBA

    Around 1982, I WAS TEACHING SCHOOL, MAKING LOTS OF PROPELLERS (and MONEY), plus racing MOD VP.

    MOD VP was so fun in the early days, STOCK production motors that we could work on anyway we saw...
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    1979 Ron Hill Talks, ON AND ON

    Because CAESAR'S PALACE sponsor a Seebold Tunnel Boat I thought it would be a great place to put on the APBA convention. I made a few calls and cut a deal with Caesar's for the 1979 APBA Convention...
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    So, no stock outboard gearcases on stock outboard motors. Continued

    Around 1980, a new neighbor moved in from Japan, two doors away. I find out he is Vice President of Kawasaki. Jet Skis are "POPPING UP
    everywhere.

    I dig out some old Speed and Spray Magazines...
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    Albert, WHY NO STOCK GEARCASES ON STOCK RACING MOTORS?

    ALBERT HAVE YOU EVERY STUDIED OUR AMERICAN GOVERMENT AND THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED TO REPRESENT US? Well, I have baring a few, Trump not being one, people in our government are out for themselves. ...
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    4 Stroke Mercury that Pavlick Had or Has 2022

    I asked Mike if he wanted any help as I HAVE BOTTOM water pick up nose cones. I think his answer was he was working on a steering bar. WHY NOT USE Morris type cable like 90% of inflatables/BOSTON...
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    APBA Gearcases: Check stock Rules

    As for the APBA banning it…are they really going to turn a 12 year old kid away from a race when the lower unit meets the technical drawings in the rule book? If so they best re evaluate their...
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    Oh, You Mean Have China Make 50 Gearcases?

    You could get 50 made for $400 each including shipping ($20,000), THEN WHEN THEY GOT HERE APBA WOULD NOT MAKE THEM LEGAL....

    Well, when I considered this myself, my son loaded his office shot gun!...
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    74-J Was Doug Pinto's Number: Doug Pinto and His Pinto

    Those two boat are Doug Pinto and his Pinto!
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    Back in the Day: Russ Hill Made Lowerunits

    Back in the day, lower units had measurements. My dad made many as did Marshall Eldridge and others. There was a "SPEC SHEET" and if your lower unit measure it was legal. My dad made many lower...
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    Salton Sea 1947

    If you look closely, you can see my dad's 1937 Plymouth, next to the scales and our cousin Harold's tent next to my dad's Plymouth. I was 3 year old but I remember being there. BUD PINTO'S PINTO. ...
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    Some Thoughts About APBA's STUPID Rules

    1. They have J Class propellers: Someone drives from California to the Nationals to race, 2,300 miles one way. They test with the J Propellers but are given another J Propeller for the race. ...
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    25 HP Mercury Two Stroke

    25hp mercury 2 stroke outboard | eBay



    Mercury 25hp 2 stroke outboard 15" shaft mid section | eBay

    $1,100 and a nose cone and you'd have a 25 Racing Two Stroke...
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    RON HILL says What Outboard Racing Needs:

    RON HILL says What Outboard Racing Needs:


    What OUTBOARD BOAT RACING needs to ever stop the "Circling the Drain Trend".


    1. APBA needs to be the promoter of all outboard Nationals. They...
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    Boat Racing is Circling the Drain

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    Some Ron Hill Favorites

    Some favorite pictures. #13 was Bill Cooper of Copper Lumber Company, later Home Depot. That Jones was fast, Bill won Long Beach and Galveston in 1969 but died sooner after than from cancer.

    I ...
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    Sticky: 768,000 Views, So It is Stuck!

    Kind of getting back to my "ROOTS" getting away from the Communist on Facebook. I have been dropping various threads off the sticky list.
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    Re Printed from BRF

    I was just thinking about my friends, the Hauensteins!

    When OLD FRED passed, 2006, it was more than 16 years ago.
    FRED HAUENSTEIN SR. FUNERAL...2006


    A very nice service for Fred today. I...
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    Ski jumps in the river, needles, california

    I ran across this picture of Needles, 1961, and saw the Ski Jump. It has been out of the river since about 1964, but I was looking at the Drag Races in Wisconsin 8/22 and saw a ski jump in the...
  34. F1 Races and Boat Racer's Reunion October 14-17, 2022 Lake Havasu City, Arizona

    Good Afternoon,

    Come celebrate the Formula 1 Powerboat Championship Series return to beautiful Lake Havasu City, Arizona on October 14-17 for the annual Lake Havasu Classic Outboard Championships...
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    Upper Midwest Powerboat Club

    https://www.umpba.org/rules-and-regulations/


    https://www.umpba.org/rules-and-regulations/

    An interesting Drag Racing Association!



    Lake Racer = 65mph and under
  36. F Runabout the "THUNDERING HERD", Always More Fun With Two in the Boat

    My dad built a "Short Rod" F Motor for himself in 1953. My brother was racing C Racing Runabout and my dad thought he'd like an F Hydro. My dad bought a conventional Step Bottom DeSilva from Ray...
  37. I Remember When Mercury Marine Supported Boat Racing

    Now days and for the past 50 years Mercury Marine has used boat racing as a profit center. They have been able to pull off NON SUPPORT via politics, rule changes and groups like APBA taking...
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    Apba news letter december 1946

    APBA News Letter was printed by APBA before they started the Propeller Magazine. My dad has several of these News Letters, some great racing names on them...
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    APBA is Much Like our Government

    APBA takes our money and spends it as they see fit. Never in my opinion is it spent for the betterment of boat racing.

    When is the last boat race APBA put on?

    When is the last sponsor APBA...
  40. Dean Hobart and R. Allen "Pop" Smith 1980

    Pop and I became very good friends. The last few years of his life, I traded three blade casting to him for finished props. You could buy "Ron Hill Props" or New "Pop Smith" props from me.

    He...
  41. 2022 Springfield, Ohio Nationals and 2022 DePue Super Nationals

    Mod 7B posted about the Super Nationals in DePue and I had the same feelings.

    I had friends racing in Springfield and DePue and had considered going to one or both races. Our Signature...
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    Salton Sea 500 1963: Cream Puff Wins

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8kmCZay9EI

    Ed Olsen owned Pricilla's Cake Box in Garden Grove. He called his boat "Cream Puff". He and Rudy did a lot of racing an winning together.
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    The Trouble IS, This Kind of Crap is Still Going On Today

    I read everything I could, and talked to several people, there was some real "CRAP" calls in J Hydro not long ago, 2022, in Washington.

    Without going into details, but my last year of racing at...
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    Chad Hill Got Kicked Out for Three Days

    When Chad was in Junior High, he got kicked out for three days. So, I took a day off school to go and meet with the Principal to find out what happened.

    Well, the Principal said, "A Marine's son...
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    APBA Officials On Top of the Rules

    I'm really disappointed and sad for my nephew Owen. (Not Ron Hill's nephew). I Just found out today that my 19 year old nephew, who drove 10 hours to race this weekend at 2022 Thunder on the...
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    No Racing SLT's in California

    Greg Foster has one and we have one. Ours is still in a box. I bought a two stroke 50 Merc but it is too heavy, just made a deal on two 50 Yamaha's.
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    2 Strokes in California and Jail Time

    Powerabout, in California you can't buy a two stroke "Weed Eater". Everything has to erecctric so we won't have global warming. We can buy used two strokes....

    That three banger with the small...
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    Got This Off Google

    I don't think I ever saw this thread....found it on Google by accident.
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    50 HP Four Stroke Tohatsu is $7,400

    In the United States we would have to use four strokes.
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    Very Cool Boat Racing

    ROUGH WATER, WIND AND RAIN, THEY RACE! Love it. I'd like to see a roll bar over the driver's head.

    How many heats and how far did they race?
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