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The first race I won was at Fishers Landing NY in the fall. The Club could afford to put the race on but were a bit short for trophies. Dick Summerfeld and Ted Abel donated all the trophy plaques an...

I think Lodge made pink plugs .

The first boat looks like 108-N, Willie Go , Al Redmond, Gouverneur NY. MacDonald hydro and C Konig I think. There's a good picture of him in rough water on a Valleyfield picture site.

I think...

http://www.boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?7707-quot-Name-That-Outboard-quot

Try " Name that outboard " page 25 on this site. On a 22ci OMC, a 1/4" spacer between the reed plate and the intake manifold was good for 1 hp.

Mike had custom cast bowhandles saying " Lundy " . It looks like one of those on your boat.

Sorry; I only ever heard it called a boot in the 60's and 70's. I have seen pictures of Waldman's special banjo gearcases and was interested if he used standard ones too.

I can't tell from the pictures; is that a ' banjo ' boot.

I was also amazed at the people I raced against through the 70's who were racing in 54 and 55 when stock outboard was brand new.

Interesting to see the pickelfork model on Swift's drawing board in 1954.

If you google ' Claude Fox album page 3 ', the second picture down is Dick Neal.

J4 is probably John Schubert. He would know the year the BSH was photographed. Probably 1954.

http://www.boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?10032-Want-to-buy!-Neal-Hydro

Your boat may have been built before there was a Stock division for hydroplanes. In the mid 50's, a B racing hydro ( google Hubble Sorenson Hybrid ) was 10 feet long.

The correct period engine...

A dutchman repair involves cutting out a rectangle around the damage and gluing a tight fitting patch in place. I only used this in solid woods where the patch is beveled on all four edges, glued...

Lots of pictures over a few pages,
http://www.boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?7707-quot-Name-That-Outboard-quot/page23

Here's one running pretty well out front. Took me a while to find it .
http://hydroracer.net/forums/forum/main/general-hydroplane-runabout-discussion/18921-b-1-bomber-class-start-n-up-aof/page2

Quincy Looper Racing site, Mark Suter collection page first and second pictures from the bottom . Bonus just for you, it has an Anzani flywheel.

I think there is a CService Mercury in Mark Suter's collection. I'll liik later.

Try looking for the noms de plume the Bowmans used. Tracy Ogden rings a faint bell. I just googled Tracy Ogden, Bowman Boat Sport and gone some hits. Ron had a post 11 years ago that makes me right.

Hap Sharp , Midland TX? Was that the Hap Sharp from Chaparal ?

I have been enjoying these threads and agree with Ron. If they pages won't behave just publish them and we will work the order out. Thanks in advance

There is a picture ( small and fuzzy ) of a Ron Messenger boat, F24 in a thread ' Random Shots from the pits: part 2'. Lakeland, 1985, page 15.

Sorry. I was using Chrome . I didn't know it would make a difference.

Just tried it and it works for me. You have to use Google, the BRF search is poor. I can email it to you if I get your address.

Google " Face Cup Boat Racing Facts" .

There's a thread here called Face Cup. Is this what you are talking about? Smokin Joe had written a book , The Physics of Speed on Water, but I don't know if it has found a publisher.

What I see Steve is a Konig with megaphones an Anzani with megaphones and a Konig with the rocket fin expansion chambers. The mid 60's saw a lot of different alky ideas in use.

Looks like a very early Konig expansion chamber hiding behind a tree in the last photo. Maybe it didn't want anyone to copy it.

The thread on BRF is " Nothing :.

I read somewhere it was supposed to say 'Nothing runs like a Quincy' but they had to leave before the signpainter was done. I'll try to remember the rference.

It was good to see my name on the regional high point list then and now, 43 years later, it's still nice.

Trident described opening the low speed jet to improve acceleration with a KA7A.

Check the Boat Sport Oct 1957 issue. Deanie Montgomey set the A alky NOA straightaway record at 59.221. He used megaphones that stuck out like a bad pair of ears.

Not exactly the answer to your question , but. In 1958 Dieter Konig set a 65 mph B alky record for APBA. The A was probably slower and regular setup probably slower again. It does make Smitty's 60...

Google tells me that European motorcycle racers were far ahead of outboards with exhaust tuning. Norton used a megaphone in 1934. Dieter Koenig put megaphones on an alky engine in 1957 ( maybe 1956...

I remember one in the 60's, owned by a guy from Ottawa, Ontario ( Ross ? ). Someone else described the ride as in rough water as driving a big sponge.

In the late 60's, I was impressed with Dick Summerfield's boat selection. At three different ( maybe even consecutive ) races, he showed up with a C and a D Marchetti, C&D Sids and C&D Castas. He...

I'm interested in the 22 ci mod that Brinkman worked on but Google doesn't help and the manual has little information on this motor.
Could anyone point me to the information.
Thanks

I just found where Hubbell's dyno figures were. His 60's catalogues advertised dyno testing for stocks and said that decent engines read as follows : KG4-16hp, Kg7-18 hp, unconverted 20H-21 hp,...

That's what I thought I saw too. It also looks to me as if the cage is closer to the upper throw than to the bottom throw.

Wasting time and I think I found a picture of these pipes. Ron Hill 1966. Google: Boat Racing Facts "Photos" A runabout looper. The thread is Nov 28,2004 in Outboard History forum.

The discussion of competitive levels of different engines in the mid 60's triggered a memory. Towards the latter part of the 70's, Bill Villhauer from Ogdensburg NY bought a B alky deflector rig...

I had an A looper for about a month in the late 70's. This story is not about success but about farce.

One day , out on the scrounge, I found an old A looper at a marina near Kingston Ontario (...

We still don't know the dyno reading for a 20H, but the conversion made so much more power the original 20H cranks would break.

Was that one of the three blades that had about a 1/8" weld then a 3/8" air gap. We were throwing blades off 2 blade ASH whels at the time and I wondered how those things held together. Then I...

There were some good ASH's in Region 2 in the 70's; France,Marcell,Webster and more. I don't think I ever saw any of them run a 3 blade, but they all ran real high.

All the speeds I quoted were dragging a Keller tube. I set it down as far as I could to get a steady needle. Over the years I bought and sold a bunch of Kellers to get one where the needle didn't...

ASH was 330 lb and ASR 345 if I remember rightly.

With the hydro you went up until it stopped pumping water then backed down 1/8. With the runabout you went up till it wouldn't get on plane and...

Speed and Spray #8, June 1953, page 37. Hubbel dynoed a stock KG7 stock at 18 hp. The curves for 3 different modifications are also shown.

It says he dynoed the powerhead so he must have used a...

Frank Volker posted pictures of the Quincy dyno ( looks to be powerhead only ) in a thread called " Quincy Dyno and Pipe Stuff" here. I don't know what Hubbel had.

The KG4 ( and ,I think, KG4H )...