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    80158 Anyone know what kind of boat this is and...

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    Anyone know what kind of boat this is and anything about it?
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    From what I read about the motor this is...

    From what I read about the motor this is supplemental cooling water supply. Drain screens under cavitation plate on outboards is common and has been for decades, usually right before the anode. I...
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    80156 Tim Kurtz brought this to my attention,...

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    Tim Kurtz brought this to my attention, the Tohat 30 has a low water pickup on the gearcase from the factory. Anyone still want to argue that a specialized foot is better? This motor is also...
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    Something I just thought of with the Merc 20 hp...

    Something I just thought of with the Merc 20 hp and likely the Tohat (15hp the same also I believe). These motors flex (kick under) when accelerating. You may want to watch video on a tin boat to see...
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    Pro Outboard hydros are sit down boats. You need...

    Pro Outboard hydros are sit down boats. You need a different boat to make it work, has to be scaled up, different angle of attack etc. I have a pretty good idea what the boat needs to be and you...
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    So looks like the 15, 20 and 30 hp 4 strokes have...

    So looks like the 15, 20 and 30 hp 4 strokes have been approved for utility racing in APBA. NBRA has approved 20 hp 4 strokes for hydro and utility. We’ll see if APBA approves new motors for hydro...
  7. 80137 Just an idea for steering should anyone...

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    Just an idea for steering should anyone want to use cables vs a Morse system. Gives you a visualization of what needs to happen with your 4 stroke motor.
  8. So any boat and any 4 stroke 20 hp. So Mercury,...

    So any boat and any 4 stroke 20 hp. So Mercury, Tohatsu, Suzuki, Honda and Yamaha. For me the Yamaha is a non starter at 126 lbs. all the others are between 94 and 104. I wouldn’t over look the used...
  9. Take a look at the Winrace hulls online, very...

    Take a look at the Winrace hulls online, very similar to Tim’s boat also. They are uncommon over here also but from what I gather they are using a 13’ boat in GT15&30. This would mean that a Delta,...
  10. You were reading my mind, I was coming back to...

    You were reading my mind, I was coming back to comment about Tim’s boat. I think an 11-12 foot version of this boat would be the ticket. I also believe we may need to get away from the current rules...
  11. Ok, so no cooling issues so nothing to do there....

    Ok, so no cooling issues so nothing to do there. If you are going to run that boat you need to add a pad to the bottom. I would say 1” thick by 8” wide and 2’ long blended into the boat. It might not...
  12. What rpm were you running and prop diameter? In...

    What rpm were you running and prop diameter? In my opinion we need to build new boats to match the engine. For a utility I’d look closely at the GT15, 30 and Dillon boats for design baseline. For a...
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    Now what does that HRL Outboard Series look like?...

    Now what does that HRL Outboard Series look like?

    Utility (all sit down rides BTW) GT15, GT30, T750, T850
    Hydro N - engines up to 15ci restricted, A - engines up to 15ci, B - engines up to...
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    Been wanting to get back to this for awhile now....

    Been wanting to get back to this for awhile now. Silly Season is upon us and it’s time to reflect on the Good, Bad and the Ugly. Pinnacle of the season had to be Valleyfield, perfect weather/weekend....
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    Ron maybe you should give the masses what they...

    Ron maybe you should give the masses what they want! But instead of Ron Hill and/or investors taking the risk how about people put their money where their mouth is and pay for it up front? We would...
  16. Hmmmm? I have racer school at SoCal…………….i get...

    Hmmmm? I have racer school at SoCal…………….i get the picture. When I got involved with this program my friend and mentor the late Larry Solski told me when he came onto the scene all the good B...
  17. Flashback, I attended my first boat race in 1981,...

    Flashback, I attended my first boat race in 1981, I was 11 years old, Detroit Unlimited Hydroplane race, my dad took me. I’ve been involved ever since. In those early years we would go over to Belle...
  18. APBA just rebranded in November 2022 and we have...

    APBA just rebranded in November 2022 and we have yet to see any changes. I don’t know why everyone continues to hitch their wagon to the organization. It’s too bad NBRA wasn’t divided into a bigger...
  19. LMAO! APBA has A Plan? You doing standup now Ron?...

    LMAO! APBA has A Plan? You doing standup now Ron? They have a plan alright………..The people putting rigs together right now have done more than those guys have done the last 2 years with the engines...
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    Starting to see some BSR 4 stroke outfits come...

    Starting to see some BSR 4 stroke outfits come together. Jim Gardiner has his Tohat now. Went down to the local dealer and bought the motor, how about that?! Someone else Kerry, is buying a Merc,...
  21. I was wondering when this was going to happen....

    I was wondering when this was going to happen. Friend of mine who was making props had suggested it to me 15 years ago. Nylon props are nothing new. We have one from Mercury, 2 blade blue in colour...
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    Mini Max, I look forward to the day of seeing...

    Mini Max, I look forward to the day of seeing your boat in the starting line picture at TOP O with the Tohat on the back most likely with estart. Hoping we can really push production engines forward...
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    It may be a temperature sensor and not a pressure...

    It may be a temperature sensor and not a pressure sensor. Had an Evinrude Etec 50 go into limp mode due to an increase in engine temperature caused by reduced water flow from weeds over the water...
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    This was a post by laddies on Hydroracer 2 years...

    This was a post by laddies on Hydroracer 2 years ago during the discussion about the Mercury 20 HP 4 Stroke
    Deeougee, I know that it is unpopular among the good of boys but I think that...
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    There’s a summary on the Hot Pit FB of the SORC...

    There’s a summary on the Hot Pit FB of the SORC zoom call to discuss/vote on proposals. The thing of most note is the very last point/paragraph of the summary. SORC Chairman Nichols met with the head...
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    Hard to race “B” anything when the engine of...

    Hard to race “B” anything when the engine of choice is not being produced right now. You also have the added difficulty when said engine of choice has not been reliable. The Y80 and Merc 25xs were...
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    Never realized your boat wasn’t a sit down ride....

    Never realized your boat wasn’t a sit down ride. I have never looked inside it, always assumed it was a sit down ride. Thanks for sharing the Dillon Racing site. Lots of good stuff there. I see...
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    Other sit down rides with production engines,...

    Other sit down rides with production engines, TBoat classes in Ontario, which are a reincarnation of outboard classes from the 70’s and 80’s. There was some talk in Region 6 of coming up with...
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    79301 The Cadillac of runabouts. Powered by a...

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    The Cadillac of runabouts. Powered by a Mark 58 here and repowered with a Tohatsu later. Have seen this boat run marathon many times.
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    79300 Remember this boat? Rusty Rae’s son Joe...

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    Remember this boat? Rusty Rae’s son Joe drove this J/A Hydro.
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    Something to keep in mind with these new engines...

    Something to keep in mind with these new engines and some of the 2 strokes. The rev limiter. Albert was saying that Tohat and Merc has a 6300 limit. Maybe have a conversation with him on how to get...
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    https://youtu.be/izONKV0eXww This is the...

    https://youtu.be/izONKV0eXww

    This is the original video of this boat with the box stock aluminum prop doing 50 mph. Motor is box stock in both videos. Max RPM in this configuration was 6710. Pay...
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    2022 Stock Outboard Racing’s Future

    https://youtu.be/baOKzPnypqM

    So the video above is a straight up apples to apples comparison to the current AX with a racing foot. The boat in the video is a Fralick hydro that was built and raced...
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    https://youtu.be/baOKzPnypqM So the video...

    https://youtu.be/baOKzPnypqM

    So the video above is a straight up apples to apples comparison to the current AX with a racing foot. The boat in the video is a Fralick hydro that was built and raced...
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    That’s an OMC 15 in the picture to the right? Bob...

    That’s an OMC 15 in the picture to the right? Bob Abbott has a couple of dozen motors that need a gearfoot. Apparently people will sell you an engine but not with the gear case, keeping them for a...
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    I’ll take it a step further. All current stock...

    I’ll take it a step further. All current stock classes to mod immediately except maybe 300SSH. New stock classes to be based on production engines sold in showrooms today. Could separate 2 and 4...
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    You could say the Yamato was the best and worse...

    You could say the Yamato was the best and worse thing that happened to stock outboard. When those engines first came over I believe Ron suggested a setup similar to what 300SSH is now. He stepped out...
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    See this is the problem, we spend a lot of time...

    See this is the problem, we spend a lot of time chasing specialized equipment that has been out of production for decades and then try to find solutions to increase the supply of parts for said...
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    See you almost fell into the trap Ron. You want...

    See you almost fell into the trap Ron. You want to make a small fortune in boat racing start with a big fortune! Kent over at Lifeline finally saw the light, can sell a lot more life jackets to the...
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