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    Some place at some time I think that I have shared this story before, so here it goes again.
    1966 John McMullen (M-14) purchased the first 6 cylinder Quincy looper. He also purchased the 15' jones hydro for that new engine. At that time the only ignition available for the six cylinder was the battery ignition that we had been running on the deflector 6's. Merc had just released the breaker point version of the CDI ignition but it was really unknown in the racing circle. They struggled the whole season with that engine. It would start most times but not run on all 6 and was fouling plugs.
    Fast forward to spring of 1967, I purchased the second Quincy 6. I purchased all the parts and assembled the engine with my internals from the deflector, with its reeds reworked for the Looper. Chris sent a note with the parts and said I have charged you for a new ignition system. It is not yet available, and I will forward to you upon receipt. This engine must use this new electronic ignition system.
    Upon receipt and knowing the critical need for a 12 volt plus supply, and no charging system on the Looper. Running a total loss system.
    I called Mercury and got hold of the tech people and asked about my concerns of voltage drop with the total loss system. Their response was, you can run up to a 30 volt supply without damage to the system.
    So for me. I ran 24 volts on the system from the beginning. Engine ran really clean, no cracking and popping. I did some testing later, in an attempt to take out some weight and removed one battery. Ran, with 12 volts, but with noted popping and cracking, not clean and crisp as before. Reinstalled battery, to 24 volts, and ran clean as before without any other changes. At one time I even ran it with 24 volts on the capacitor / box, and 12 volts on the trigger circuit and also ran fine.
    So with all that, Anyone who wants to run a Looper for just fun or show, do it justice and save yourself the grief of fowled plugs and hard starting.
    Just a comparison of the fuel required for a Looper vs the deflector equivalent, the carbs looked the same but were different. They both were adjusted to about 1 1/4 turns open, however the Looper carb had a .060 fixed orifice drilled in the center post across from the needle opening as a fix jet.
    Therefore the demand on the ignition system to fire this amount of fuel plus the higher cylinder pressure.
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    Guess if I want to stay on the sticky list I need to update the thread a little more often. Has been a while, time sure flying by.
    I have run the engine on the dyno a few times as I continue to dial in the fuel injection map. I have reinstalled the dual plug heads with the chamber volumes cut from 20cc's to 16cc's. The ignition system, at least on the dyno, seems to be functioning properly and firing the dual coils effectively.
    Will run again this week and clean up and reinstall on the boat. Will be taking to the Pentwater Antique Wooden Boat show on the 27th and then look for an AOMCI event. Possibly Lapeer Mi. in September.
    Will See!
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    Quote Originally Posted by R Austin View Post
    Guess if I want to stay on the sticky list I need to update the thread a little more often. Has been a while, time sure flying by.
    I have run the engine on the dyno a few times as I continue to dial in the fuel injection map. I have reinstalled the dual plug heads with the chamber volumes cut from 20cc's to 16cc's. The ignition system, at least on the dyno, seems to be functioning properly and firing the dual coils effectively.
    Will run again this week and clean up and reinstall on the boat. Will be taking to the Pentwater Antique Wooden Boat show on the 27th and then look for an AOMCI event. Possibly Lapeer Mi. in September.
    Will See!
    If you do go to Lapeer let us know I might swing up to see it.
    - Craig "Dew"
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    Made it to the AOMC Constantine Super meet and ran the Beast and my favorite from the past, the 1964 Jones with the Modified 75H. Just a sweet running motor and handling boat. The old 6 ran flawlessly. Did throw a blade off one of my favorite Record props.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeZlRBmzyso

    Got to run the Beast again. Not where I want it to be yet but sure has the potential to go. Was more about feeling the boat and motor combination out than speed. What I know at this point is that acceleration is strong. I held it longer down the front straight a way on the last 2 laps but they did not get recorded unless some attendee has them. If you do let me know.

    I feel that there is something amiss about the fuel injection system as plug coloring is all over the place. Nothing even close to consistent. Looking into that now.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gBME7X_mxk
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