Glad to see Howard, who was generally referred to as "Andy" by his Seattle Outboard friends (basically anybody who had ever talked with him!!), be honored in this way. Since this is an engine thread, a discussion of Andy's later D and F engines should maybe invoke the name of Bill Rankin, an old-timer and old racing buddy of Andy. Rankin was a very smart mechanic, and I had the impression that he was Andy's main engine-builder in the days when Andy was running a loop six. If anyone knows better about this, corrections are always welcome. Andy once told me they were having some problems related to the alky-converted Carter carbs on his six, and since I had a lathe, I said I could turn him some anti-shock mounts for the Carters. A pretty simple project really, but as a young guy doing a job for one of the stars, I was most pleased when Andy later told me that "Rankin was impressed with your carb mounts." Don't know if they ever used them, though. J-Dub??